Not here to flame -- You say people hate you for being apart of Gaben's "circle jerk". Ever considered it wasn't the circle jerk but the way you act? I've hated you from the start and I'm not part of Gaben's "circle jerk". In fact, I hate you because you seem to hold this "better than thy" image of yourself. Don't go pointing fingers when you're the person making your own image, it just makes it easier to hate you.