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are you ROTC by any chance
ROTC is for normal colleges, but while Military colleges cover same material, Military colleges have you live the lifestyle 24/7. Also had to edit last comment, I don;t wanna get destroyed for anti Semitic joke lmao
 

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ROTC is for normal colleges, but while Military colleges cover same material, Military colleges have you live the lifestyle 24/7.
Do you have green service then or no
 

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Do you mean things like intermittent service in-between years, in that case it depends.
I mean field work

Do you go out into the field to practice combat maneuver, platoon movement and CPAs

Do you have field exercises

if you don't then you're living 30% of the actual deal lol
 

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I mean field work

Do you go out into the field to practice combat maneuver, platoon movement and CPAs

Do you have field exercises

if you don't then you're living 30% of the actual deal lol
Oh yeah that's called FTX here.
 

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aight

just heard that officers don't do anything like basic so i wasnt sure lmao
Its mostly in the first two years, so by time they commission they might as well not. Its prolly one of the issues with butter bar 2ndLts.
 

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Sorry you felt that way. I know that feeling. Perhaps it was best if you left, indeed, but maybe if you had a friend along you that could give you confidence, you could've surpassed all of that with ease.
There were some friends in other units I knew from school, but even they ended up discharged one way (mental deterioration of some kind, has to try again some other time) or another (asthma flaring up). My squad also had another 'underdog' I could almost relate to, but even he managed much better than me.
Oh yeah, I don't remember anything from the the last day to morning the day after. Totally blank space in my memory. I've only got memory of making it through the finish line because we had to pass through a river with water at chest height before our 2 km sprint through mud, more water and sewer pipes.

I was pretty small too when we started, but had gained 10 kg at the end and really strengthened my mental fortitude. Obviously your set-backs are something you wouldn't have been able to do anything about. But it would still have been a fun experience had you stuck it out, I think.

It always sucks in the moment, but it makes stories you'll be talking about 10 years from now
There was a free-pace march we had from firing range back to the barracks. That was good shit; wasn't anywhere near the first people to finish, but I was well ahead of the tail-end as well - all without feeling like an exhausted crapsack afterwards.

Unfortunately, I feel like I had such 'core flaws' that trying to "refine" me into a proper soldier would've taken much, much longer and with a lot more resources than everyone else. Each soldier is a pretty big investment after all, so half-baked results like me would be a waste of time and money.

Some NCO(s) were already a little reluctant about my performance and told me how a normal dude shouldn't have such nauseous reactions to having their bodily limits exerted. This was even more apparent when literally everybody else seemed to perform just fine except me.

Still, I did have fun as well. There was this funny story my room sergeant recounted from his time in NCO training, where a CO got so angry at some dude's rifle he grabbed the gun and yeeted it right up in the air. One of the NCO's had to frantically catch it so the thing wouldn't get fall down to the ground.

And one of our CO's was a little weird. He had this strange mindset about whether Finland would ever go to war. Said smth along the lines of "Well I have all this training (he'd gone through Jaeger training at some poing IIRC), so of course I would get excited if I could put them to use." Kinda MonkaS if you ask me.
 
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Its mostly in the first two years, so by time they commission they might as well not. Its prolly one of the issues with butter bar 2ndLts.
vast majority of officers i've dealt with have been extremely inexperienced, more often than not letting sergeants and below take lead because they do the actual work

so was just wondering why that was
There were some friends in other units I knew from school, but even they ended up discharged one way (mental deterioration of some kind, has to try again some other time) or another (asthma flaring up). My squad also had another 'underdog' I could almost relate to, but even he managed much better than me.

There was a free-pace march we had from firing range back to the barracks. That was good shit; wasn't anywhere near the first people to finish, but I was well ahead of the tail-end as well - all without feeling like an exhausted crapsack afterwards.

Unfortunately, I feel like I had such 'core flaws' that trying to "refine" me into a proper soldier would've taken much, much longer and with a lot more resources than everyone else. Each soldier is a pretty big investment after all, so half-baked results like me would be a waste of time and money.

Some NCO(s) were already a little reluctant about my performance and told me how a normal dude shouldn't have such nauseous reactions to having their bodily limits exerted. This was even more apparent when literally everybody else seemed to perform just fine except me.

Still, I did have fun as well. There was this funny story my room sergeant recounted from his time in NCO training, where a CO got so angry at some dude's rifle he grabbed the gun and yeeted it right up in the air. One of the NCO's had to frantically catch it so the thing wouldn't get fall down to the ground.

And one of our CO's was a little weird. He had this strange mindset about whether Finland would ever go to war. Said smth along the lines of "Well I have all this training (he'd gone through Jaeger training at some poing IIRC), so of course I would get excited if I could put them to use." Kinda MonkaS if you ask me.
to each their own, i guess
 

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USMC Vet here and I'm *never* going back.

Officers out of academies/colleges are total dweebs and are worse than fresh boots and dependas.
 
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vast majority of officers i've dealt with have been extremely inexperienced, more often than not letting sergeants and below take lead because they do the actual work
Why though? Why are they inexperienced? That's sounds very off.
 

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Why though? Why are they inexperienced? That's sounds very off.
Because they don't do the actual work they make others do so they have no realistic idea of what it takes, how long it takes and when it should be done

Most of them are garrison babes, who aren't "in" on the way we communicate either
 
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Because they don't do the actual work they make others do so they have no realistic idea of what it takes, how long it takes and when it should be done

Most of them are garrison babes, who aren't "in" on the way we communicate either
That is severely retarded. If someone were to take a leading position, they should know how it feels like to be on the other side.
 

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That is severely retarded. If someone were to take a leading position, they should know how it feels like to be on the other side.
Tell me about it

If it were up to be COs should have AT LEAST 2 years of prior service before seeking the education
 

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Why though? Why are they inexperienced? That's sounds very off.

Because they basically earn their rank in an academic setting so they don't have the actual field experience. Corporals literally have more field experience than most 1st and 2nd LTs I've met.

There's a reason NCOs are constantly roasting comissioned officers lmao.
 
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Tell me about it

If it were up to be COs should have AT LEAST 2 years of prior service before seeking the education
Because they basically earn their rank in an academic setting so they don't have the actual field experience. Corporals literally have more field experience than most 1st and 2nd LTs I've met.

There's a reason NCOs are constantly roasting comissioned officers lmao.
How about they undergo the training that they issue to others with their ranks? Like, comissioned officers doing the training they issue with their fellow comissioned officers. There is no logical point in giving training to someone if you don't know how it's like to do it, if you have never experienced such, then why are you in a leading position? To crumble it down?