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Perks shouldn't be tiered

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No Mither counters NOED
I agree, they already are except they're "not really". This would just make it easier for newer players to realise what's best
 

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do it again but this time explain why no mither is the best perk
Okay

No mither:
  • + You can completely counter the 'exposed' status effect.
  • + You can render various killers powers useless (Myers, Plague, Ghostface)
  • + You can get back up off the floor, the killer would never hook someone using this perk. Never.
  • + You keep the map clean by not leaving blood around
  • + You can run self care and not need it
  • + You get a cool icon to show you're running it and that you don't give a fuck mate
  • + You can use dead hard instantly
  • - Being injured all game and basically making yourself the weakest link in the team by default
 
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Okay

No mither:
  • + You can completely counter the 'exposed' status effect.
  • + You can render various killers powers useless (Myers, Plague, Ghostface)
  • + You can get back up off the floor, the killer would never hook someone using this perk. Never.
  • + You keep the map clean by not leaving blood around
  • + You can run self care and not need it
  • + You get a cool icon to show you're running it and that you don't give a fuck mate
  • + You can use dead hard instantly
  • - Being injured all game and basically making yourself the weakest link in the team by default

hehe this is fun

killer perk time
 

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Here's the most OP build in the game:

No Mither

Self Care

Solidarity

Mettle of Man

you could replace mettle of man with object of obsession so you always know where the killer is

that way you cant even hide from them
 
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NOED gets a really bad reputation because survivors are actually little bitches (I complain about NOED as well sometimes, but whatever).

People misunderstand the true power if NOED - the thing killers most need right now is time (which is why ruin is meta), and NOED offers survivors a binary choice: lay off the gens for a few seconds to do bones (and give the killer time) or genrush and face the consequences of NOED when youre done.

Right now, the meta is to go "hope he doesnt have noed and if he does he is a cancer bitch, i mean, all he has to do is to get rid of my instaheal, deadhard, borrowed time, bodyblocking teammates, and two pallets in between our current position and the gate" which is absilutely ridicolous

NOED is only a threat because survivors demand killers dont run it instead of dealing with it
 
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NOED gets a really bad reputation because survivors are actually little bitches (I complain about NOED as well sometimes, but whatever).

People misunderstand the true power if NOED - the thing killers most need right now is time (which is why ruin is meta), and NOED offers survivors a binary choice: lay off the gens for a few seconds to do bones (and give the killer time) or genrush and face the consequences of NOED when youre done.

Right now, the meta is to go "hope he doesnt have noed and if he does he is a cancer bitch, i mean, all he has to do is to get rid of my instaheal, deadhard, borrowed time, bodyblocking teammates, and two pallets in between our current position and the gate" which is absilutely ridicolous

NOED is only a threat because survivors demand killers dont run it instead of dealing with it
This is why I tell you guys to do totems when we play swf

If I don't do them myself first, of course. I have a knack of spawning right next to hex totems.

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a problem with DBD i have is that a lot of perks that're meta are effectively completely useless until they do their thing, one time in the entire match.

mettle of man
decisive strike
adrenaline
NOED
actually any hex totem, because you can just get it destroyed literally within 10 seconds
 

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hehe this is fun

killer perk time

Ruin:

  • + Slows the game down, even against experienced survivors as it either forces them to look for the totem and not repair gens, or live without the great skill check boost with a high chance of lowering progress
  • + Can be hard to find and neutralize for survivors not running Small Game or Detective's Hunch
  • - It's a Hex Perk, meaning you're gambling how long it can stay in the game

BBQ:

  • + Gives a lot of bloodpoints for just playing the game
  • + Wallhacks that can be helpful in locating your next target
  • - Literally no downside why would you not run this
NOED:
  • + Easily dispatch survivors in the endgame
  • + Hidden until you actually merk someone
  • + Can be hard to find and neutralize due to being a Hex perk
  • + Survivors will fear you
  • + Adrenaline is less of a problem
  • - Can be counterplayed before it's even activated
  • - Can be disabled after it's activated as well

Sloppy Butcher:
  • + Makes it easier to track survivors you've already hit
  • + Increases the time it takes for survivors to heal, which means they spend less time on gens
  • + Fucks Self Care users in the ass
  • + Doesn't take a lot of effort to get the desired effect
  • - Hard countered by No Mither
 
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I wish I was actually good at this game. I play only survivor, played killer once and failed miserably. I can't juke for shit and if I get hit one time they'll chase me and kill me for good 100%
 

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NOED gets a really bad reputation because survivors are actually little bitches (I complain about NOED as well sometimes, but whatever).

People misunderstand the true power if NOED - the thing killers most need right now is time (which is why ruin is meta), and NOED offers survivors a binary choice: lay off the gens for a few seconds to do bones (and give the killer time) or genrush and face the consequences of NOED when youre done.

Right now, the meta is to go "hope he doesnt have noed and if he does he is a cancer bitch, i mean, all he has to do is to get rid of my instaheal, deadhard, borrowed time, bodyblocking teammates, and two pallets in between our current position and the gate" which is absilutely ridicolous

NOED is only a threat because survivors demand killers dont run it instead of dealing with it

Literally just run Small Game and ruin every killers day

It's not that hard
 

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What makes a good killer: Pressure and how fast you can end chases OR can buy time some other way

This is why Nurse is and has been for AGES S+ tier
As i try more killers, i actually think the Hag is better than what people give her credit for, if you know how to trap beyond spamming the hooked guy

My killer tier list
Nurse
Spirit
Hag
Hillbilly / Huntress
Pig / Ghostface / Clown / Trapper / Plague
Myers / leatherface / Doctor
Wraith
Freddy (pre-rework)
 
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Literally just run Small Game and ruin every killers day

It's not that hard
I run leader so my teammates have even more reason to get totems done

Also leader is god tier for the gate opening speed increase. It makes a difference
 

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What makes a good killer: Pressure and how fast you can end chases OR can buy time some other way

This is why Nurse is and has been for AGES S+ tier
As i try more killers, i actually think the Hag is better than what people give her credit for, if you know how to trap beyond spamming the hooked guy

My killer tier list
Nurse
Spirit
Hag
Hillbilly / Huntress
Pig / Ghostface / Clown / Trapper / Plague
Myers / leatherface / Doctor
Wraith
Freddy (pre-rework)

most tier lists i've seen have billy (alone) in A and nurse (alone) in S

hm
 

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most tier lists i've seen have billy (alone) in A and nurse (alone) in S

hm

Well, Billy does have a lot of great map pressure but I'd still argue that Spirit is better than him due to the much higher potential she has in chases with only a (relatively) small loss of map pressure

Spirit is like playing 4d chess and Billy is checkers

What makes a good killer: Pressure and how fast you can end chases OR can buy time some other way

This is why Nurse is and has been for AGES S+ tier
As i try more killers, i actually think the Hag is better than what people give her credit for, if you know how to trap beyond spamming the hooked guy

My killer tier list
Nurse
Spirit
Hag
Hillbilly / Huntress
Pig / Ghostface / Clown / Trapper / Plague
Myers / leatherface / Doctor
Wraith
Freddy (pre-rework)

Leatherface isn't at the top of this list so clearly it's wrong

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most tier lists i've seen have billy (alone) in A and nurse (alone) in S

hm
Spirit is better than billy, just insanely harder
Dont play hag if you see a lot of claudettes/lots of flashlights
[doublepost=1563761078][/doublepost]Nurse and spirit are the only two killers with which the killer is actually truly in-charge of the pace and course of the game.

All others win by survivor errors.
 
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