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according to that logic the relations division should have never existed

exactly @Lzom

Relations division?

the Union maybe doesn't care about hygiene, but most of CAB members do

representative relations PR division or whatever

Yes, Representative division - the division that got no use, nore was it /used/ for anything tbh.

If the CAB care then it can be done by in-game roleplay, it doesn't have to be a whole reform.

it doesnt need a whole reform and still, you accepted the reform
and of course rep division IC'ly has use
OOC'ly it doesnt

I've got no part in any new reforms, I haven't accepted anything. I've been leaving it down to the faction leads. I'm not a faction lead, I just oversee the faction incase stuff goes south.

According to Hiros they only didn't use HR because you said it wouldn't work. That doesn't sound like 'oversight incase something goes south' to me.

I don't see the logic, really - the Union in this lore has backed off a little bit, they've allowed far more useless things to happen and even then; a division devoted to the oversight of workers in both their conduct and relation only proves to increase efficiency-

and hygiene oversight only prevents any unnecessary diseases being spread, improperly prepared food or even non-UU food being used in recipes which HAS happened before.

In the long run NOT having HR would only serve to hinder proceedings and cost the Union more resources in the long run, as opposed to using preventive measures.

Not only that, but it provides the faction with an entirely new form of RP instead of workshift related shit.

And according to @Hiros the core values of HR are still being implemented into non-industrial anyway, just in a dumbed down manner.

representative has been used a few times it's only really been used to it's fullest by a full people what's a real shame

rep isnt a flawed concept, it just isnt the type of thing that should've been made into it's own division

non-industrial is a good balance

" According to Hiros they only didn't use HR because you said it wouldn't work. That doesn't sound like 'oversight incase something goes south' to me."

I said it wouldn't make that much sense when Brano asked me what I thought. I don't stop them from making decisions with the faction, that's why they're leads. If they don't want my help then I'm fine with that, my main role is to stop CWU falling back into the shithole cookie put it in again.

If you want stuff like this to be implemented in a way that would make sense then you need to speak to the faction leads about it, not my profile.

I don't mind that they aren't using it mate don't get me wrong, I made it quite clear to them they can use it however they want.

I just wanted to know why you didn't think it was logical.

Nah I know, don't worry.

Reason I didn't think it was logical is because I like to think we use the more lore closest Union that doesn't care too much about relationships between the workers and how hygienic everything is.

Well, they don't from a moral stance no.

But ultimately it'd cost them more resources if the two lacked. By having shit relations between workers you're decreasing productivity or even inciting violent crime, and by having unchecked hygiene you risk disease spreading which could harm an entire workforce.

I don't see them caring about a dozen - at most - workers being used to prevent that.

i tried so hard subeh