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the cult of grist

rabid this is the second time (malcom x) has been involved with abuse and been caught out on it

(name edited because otherwise my post will get deleted for some arbitrary reason)

That's hardly abuse though its literally someone suggesting something that was gonna be shot down if the lead had time to take a look at it. I'm at least... I dunno, 90% sure Evil alone has openly admitted thats how OTA has always worked and nobody batted an eye.

thats not the point

why is leaking that a bad thing

some more shit is going down in two days or so.

Because I'm pretty sure the reaction to the leak being leaked says it all and were it anyone else nobody would give a shit in the aftermath. It wasn't done - and I say this with the utmost respect for DoubleD - to expose abuse, it was done to have a giggle.

listen to yourself

Yeah, I am. And I know its true because it was literally admitted to lol

so you think that it's justified because it's an ingrained practice? And because it was to poke fun discounts it completely?

No but the person who said it wasn't even lead (which already invalidates it because like fuck would it have gone anywhere given Key) and nobody raised it as a problem even when prior leads admitted to doing it. The problem is that it wasn't leaked to expose abuse, it was leaked for a laugh and found out /that way/.

It wasn't even brought up with Key before the Discord lol

how it was leaked doesn't change the fact it was abuse - and the fact that hs are trying to defend this for some reason

(ten NebBucks(tm) have been deposited into your account!)

it's quite telling to me that the prodigal son and reformed child of the head staff who had returned from his past of abuse to go right back and do it again

"Right back and do it again" - you gonna tell me that you aint ever said shit in private chats? In Discords? Bet you that hasn't come to light though. I'm not defending what was said, I'm pointing out the selective cherrypicking of the narrative when it suits to go on the attack.

It isn't like the abuse was pointed out to the people who could deal with it, my guy. It was pointed out for people to have a laugh at it in private and probably would have stayed that way had the leak not been leaked. Not even the lead knew.

I don't think I'll change your mind nor you'll change mine, but I still think that it wasn't wrong to screenshot it, I'm sure things are screenshotted all the time, but I guess we all don't have @camilla or whatever to look out for us

i think leaking "private faction documents" is different from calling out legitimate bullshit going on in its leadership

End of the day man, I just hate the drama shit. I think we both know if it was another mod and it wasn't Pumpkin's post that got leaked this wouldn't have blown up quite the way it has done.

touché

you gotta be tarded tryna stick up for abuse