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would you consider picking people thatve done no application over people that actually invest their time in working on an application in hopes of getting accept is fair

okay but that doesn’t excuse that abusing positions of power is something that can be casually discussed in private threads

it isn’t correct to give someone a faction on simple merit, it’s not an inclusive way of running a community, this is akin to gurrazor giving that rich dude a top tier rebel just cause he “thought it was ok”

No and as I said, I didn't support it lol - but I also gotta say that all of this is on the suggestion that: Key would have accepted it, the idea would have come to pass and it would have gotten out beyond Pumpkin's dumb half-formed idea.

Bruh he literally said "Can we circlejerk my friend into the faction" that says more than enough to show that he is extremely bias with his big ass history of abuse

Likewise had the leak not been leaked it would have remained a funny joke.

RABID, this is pure fucking blatant admin abuse!!! they need their ranks thrown down the fucking drain!!! if they do not it truly shows the corruption of this fucking community.

He suggested circlejerking someone who is active and can respond and is trusted, yeah. Do I agree with circlejerking them in? No. Do I agree with suggesting trusted people? Sure cause everyone does that.

Well, to be fair, ''trusted people'' doesn't say a lot and could just be another form of circlejerking people in.

"trusted people" is used by literally everyone on every single level and always has been, to deny that is silly.

yeah but it was implied circlejerking them in was exactly what was gonna happen, sorry rabid but for once i’m glad to be the one to say this is bordering on delusion, abuse is right in front of you and you defend it

trusted people that have been demoted from sa back to user, from user gone to admin and from admin into ota which ended up asking for someone to be circlejerked into ota

Roman you act like Pumpkin was an OTA lead and Key wouldn't have shot the idea down though?

Yeah lets give people the ability not to apply because he is my friend.

Do you seriously not see the amount of abuse that could come from this? This is like somoene of a company leaking fraud and you're fucking defending it because "Well if he didn't leak it noody would really care hehe"

@Dallahan Compared to people who got/held staff who abused to high hell but did so with their friends who didn't rat them out cause it suited them? Like man I'm sure as fuck not gonna act like the abuse that goes on in private discords or chats is gonna be aired for the sake of fairness.

the way he said it implies confidence rabid, and I was an OTA lead, I wouldn’t have had it, but the fact the confidence and implication it’s already happened once before concerns me

I'm not fucking saying I'm pointing out the fact he wanted to do it I'm pointing out it wasn't DONE to call out abuse he admitted it was done for a fucking laugh lmao The outrage is cause he got /removed/ over that and other shit.

which further sets the precedent that anyone who whistle blows or highlights abuse in this community will get fucked

it’s a mess chief, no matter how you phrase it

But it doesn't though because that implies the "whistle blower" had any intent to blow the whistle - he admits he didn't. He did it because he wanted to share it with his friends and have a laugh over it and it would have *stayed there* to suit if the leak hadn't been leaked.

Had he set out to expose this, I'd feel differently. But he didn't, and I like the guy a hell of a lot. It was done for a chuckle and the fact he got removed for leaking makes it a convenient platform to launch from.