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ok but my point is if this is a hacker which has been 'known for a while now' in the words of the banner do you not think that you'd pull up ANY type of recording software to make it water-tight ahaha
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you tell me, is there? wouldn't surprise me, he isn't the most friendly with staff around these parts, is he?
Angel
Angel
Ok you're just pivoting now because your own arguments weren't 'water-tight' whatever the fuck that means. If the person who owns the community tells me someone cheated, I believe. Does VALVE ever provide evidence that players cheated before banning? No. They just ban. That's it.
Angel
Angel
Have your own conspiracy theories ramsey, if you think headstaff is corrupt and making false cheating accusations to ban people (which I already explained why they wouldn't have to) then don't play here, since clearly this is a horrible place to be in.
Angel
Angel
No point in keeping this going. Have a good morning ramsey, wish you well.
Powley
Powley
Hello angel, I won’t drag this on for long because I’m sure you’re already suffering withdrawal symptoms from being outside Alex’s locked and private channel with your marching “Mr.” Names
Powley
Powley
Do I personally think they are corrupt and evil staff? No, not really, I know they do their best for the server

Do I think it’s wrong of them to ban without providing any evidence and withholding evidence? Absolutely
Powley
Powley
It’s easy enough to say what’s happened in the past so many years of what’s happened, as you quit clearly like to use against me here
Powley
Powley
As far as I’m concerned, friendlyman was banned off the word of someone of which I find unfair, and since he can’t defend himself since he’s banned, I wanted to add my opinion to it without posting on the appeal
Angel
Angel
I don't see the difference between me being in a channel and having friends with who I play games - I'm sure you also play games with your friends on discord, where it's also 'locked'. If you know they do their best, why don't you trust they're doing it right now? Your actions haven't shown what you say to believe.
Powley
Powley
You can feeel free to stack me, say how I unironically told people to kill themselves - but do you forget how you were apart of that too? There’s no point starting up the conflict again like you criticised me for
Angel
Angel
As for the past comments, that's because you, yourself said people don't really change. Which is think is completely wrong. People do change. You've changed, we all have.
Powley
Powley
I don’t trust this action because they show no evidence yet claim to have caught him

They want him to provide evidence he’s innocent, not them providing evidence he’s guilty
Powley
Powley
If you were banned, would you not want evidence from them that you had don’t wrong?
Angel
Angel
Exactly. I am completely different now than I was 6 years ago at the age of 15. My whole point is, you know when you put these opinions out, you have a cult following of people who are like we used to be. 15. They take it way too far and drag things without necessity, causing insane amounts of useless drama.
Angel
Angel
As for the lack of evidence - for the reasons I explained before, I don't think they are lying about it or have a reason to lie about it. Would it be better if there was a recording? Yes! But people didn't complain about that with eridian or others in the past, why now?
Powley
Powley
No, your point was you wanted to get a light zinger on me. I’m not mad at you or anything for defending your friends but they should really provide proof for this, angel
Angel
Angel
Given the recent rhetoric of constantly attacking headstaff as a group and shitting on everything that happens while turning a blind eye to other stuff because they're friends, does make it pretty convincing that this is stirring for stirring and not because it actually outrageous.
Powley
Powley
Because erosions was discovered in plain sight, with a lot of people actually being attested to it and erosion going so far as to admit it himself

Friendlyman hasnt
Angel
Angel
No, I wasn't trying to get a zinger on you, there's no point. If you haven't noticed, me stating my opinion usually = hordes of people getting angry and dumb bombing everything and harassing me all the time. I don't care for that, but others in the community do and have been silenced because of that before.