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Kafe
Kafe
It's been kinda upsetting to watch and wind up being engaged in as well
Kafe
Kafe
Mostly being quick to fight over the semantics of an issue or another issue all together, and not really keeping focused in the arguments.
Kafe
Kafe
As well as a general lack of closure, typically seeing things ending when someone just declares 'fuck it' and stops posting. Or of course, closure at an inappropriate time without tackling the key issue
Raiden
Raiden
"players" is a loose term in these arguments.
Kafe
Kafe
Even though people may not be server regulars, if they're still bothered enough to be posting on forums, I'd rather include them. - Really better off not burning bridges.
Raiden
Raiden
Despite that, there's quite a few people who play the server who don't actively participate in discussions regarding HL2RP in general, for various reasons of their own.

I don't mind discussion, but it's hard for anyone to say they are speaking "on behalf of the server" so to speak.
Kafe
Kafe
I figure for the most part nobody can speak for the server as a whole, except for management since they make the final decisions after all. We can speak for ourselves though.
Raiden
Raiden
It's a difficult thing to do, everyone seems to want different things and it's almost impossible to make compromise.
Kafe
Kafe
I feel that's why there is a feeling of discontent lurking. from the player perspective here, if there is a suggestion that a lead doesn't agree with, there is a prolonged tennis match that goes off course. - Not too much visibility if it gets properly discussed, or if it was ever considered before.
Raiden
Raiden
Seems to be however that it's the same people who take part in that tennis match to which it comes to a point where people lose interest in trying to do anything exciting or interesting, through fear of causing another shitstorm.
Raiden
Raiden
I've had conversations with people who've told me specifically that they wouldn't want to raise a point or issue about anything because they feel one side of this "match" will chastise them.
Kafe
Kafe
that fact should ultimately bring this place to shame.
Kafe
Kafe
but essentially, I want to be able to look at this community in a year's time with a positive outlook. I don't want to have to declare 'fuck this' a third time. - Guess if you want to get that done, I gotta start some DIY
Raiden
Raiden
and it's result means the solid state the server is in right now.

which is why I'm holding my breath for events to come
Khiel
Khiel
"players" is a loose term. Refer to them for the cattle they are.
Raiden
Raiden
im tryna get some cwu/um events done because they are eternally the forgotten factions in terms of the event team, even more so when the event schedule is flooded with rebel events and a few cp events :/
Kafe
Kafe
sorry, kinda nicked one of those slots.
Raiden
Raiden
(((i hope the next map has a good admin box)))