Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by Goopy, Aug 6, 2021.
theres 600 parachute regiment at the aiport right now im p. sure
I know nothing of the situations to comment on them
saw a good documentary on why the villages outside of any metropolis support the taliban and it goes something like
the us pass through, say hi once and then leave them to their own devices, sometimes they'd bomb your neighbour because a fella they didnt like hid inside his home
the taliban stay and establish a court of law, given their court of law is cutting peoples hands off for stealing and going off forced confessions and a complete lack of real evidence but to them its more than the state has done. but generally if you've done nothing wrong you actually have some kind of policing force to keep your crops and animals safe from nearby dickweeds. thats a very large amount of actual afghanistan, and most of what the taliban controls
no surprise the US invasion was a fluke when they cant get sympathy from the most baseline of the people who provide food for the entire country. also bombing a bunch of civilians definitely didn't help them garner any support.
simple fact is that the intervention in afghanistan was not because the US is evil
the taliban like every strain of radical islamism is fucked up and even pretending for a moment that the 'us' should have just minded its own business is a list worthy take
i mention these examples because it plays into this trend of leftist apathy to actual functional foreign policy
had the US minded its own buisness in bosnia, the serbs would have killed thousands, if not tens of thousands more people in a genocide
in rwanda, had the west intervened then perhaps there would not have been a rwandan genocide toi the scale that it is now known
Lets get into this
The President of Afghanistan, Ashraf Ghani resigns and flee, leaving the Taliban to take Over Kabul
Officials of Afghanistan reportedly agree to surrender control of Kabul to Taliban as of today, the 15th of August
The Vice President, Saleh, has been left in charge, but also plans to flee
Albania is reportedly ready to accept Afghan Refugees, says Prime Minister Edi Rama
Russia has no plans to evacuate its embassy in the Capital which has been surrendered to the Taliban
it's another south vietnam, all the stockpiles won't mean shit when the local populace is sick of kabul's corruption + being in a constant civil war since 2001 (1979 for those in the north) and most of the training hinged on reliance with ISAF support
there simply isn't much those soldiers can do now beyond flee or disarm themselves and switch sides
considering a good chunk of ISAF only told ANA forces about ops the night before and took their phones + the heavy reliance on ISAF to begin with, there was never any chance of these guys being an effective force in the long term with the amount of ineptitude / informers
you have to remember a lot of them simply were there for the paycheck and authority, things fuck up and they were headed straight to pawn their weapons/run away. afghan special forces are another story but who knows how many are left around after their quartermasters started selling/giving away their stockpiles to the taliban
25 to 1 odds he's captured before he makes it out of the country
yeah but the serbs didn't have US pipelines, USAID buildings and oil did they
the taliban were in washington's good graces right up until osama walked into the country and started bombing shit from it, nobody from congress gave a shit about the wardlord era after the russians pulled out and once the taliban took kabul, having an actual government meant they could buy and take what they wanted
gonna be interesting what the tribal ruling of the Taliban means for unification with Pakistan
If not geographically, politically at least
Kabul, Afghanistan, 2021
Saigon, Vietnam, 1976
what a way we’ve come, another Vietnam, how poetic of a photo to see
ah yes afghanistans vast and untapped oil reserves
but they did it for oil!!!
show me the US pipeline in afghanistan
Remember, the U.S is entirely incapable of performing any action in any country and have it be an altruistic one. There is always a hidden agenda based around world domination and population subjugation
interesting to see if we will have any direct effects from the "liberation" of prison facilities in Afghanistan. Thousands of IS fighters and the likes that have been released from prison now
vietnam was nothing but ego, they should've pulled that long before they did, and only after they pulled it did they do a 180 as every war veteran was misstreated and left behind by their own country because the general public didn't agree with the war in the first place.
afghanistan is the same amount of hero complex.
unocal didn't open a 900k training camp plus plan a 2 billion dollar pipeline for nothing
got shit to do tonight though so I'm not going to debate this rn, will respond with an in-depth rebuttal down the line
It takes at least 20-40 years of military and financial support to create any long term changes in a foreign nation.
Democracies cannot effectively go to war, defeat an enemy and de-radicalize the population in a short span of time without popular support of their people as was done in Germany after WW2.
The people generally are willing to go to war for a few years, if the cause is right, but will eventually get cold feet from the casualties it causes and the money it sucks up.
War for Western nations is a struggle of popular attrition. The Taliban only ever had to wait until the people of democratic nations get fed up.
We could've fought the war in Afghanistan for twenty more years, and probably changed a lot for the positive, but sadly, as always, the will of the voter must be respected.
this but unironically