Draft Weight Based Inventory Concept

[Gary]

Been cooking up a concept for a weight based inventory system inspired by Project Zomboid. Curious on feedback, not sure if this will be going out or not, still in an exploratory phase.

The idea is to create a weight based system which works within the framework of Helix's current inventory system, meaning the grid will stay.

Players will have a main inventory & weight, which will be an accumulation of all items in the inventory. Bags have a seperate capacity, which also counts towards the player's total weight.

Bags can be equipped to apply a weight modifier, which will lower the impact it has on the player's total weight

Containers and vaults also have a maximum weight capacity

The player's main inventory capacity is able to exceed the limit, however this will result in overweight penalties.
Bags and containers are not able to exceed their limits.

Stackable items have a dynamic weight, which will change depending on the quantity of the stack

As I've said before, all of this is a proof of concept and nothing which is planned to go on server - weights are not balanced currently and are all over the place.

So yeah, feedback would be cool

 

[Deleted member 906]

FINALLY

 

[Thood74]

Will max weight be a faction variable?

 

[Gary]

Will max weight be a faction variable?

Yep, not sure how much change there will be between factions, but it has been set up

 

[Oswald]

will strength/endurance effect overall weight and if so will strength be altered so it is actually able to go up, otherwise combine players get a massive advantage with auto maxed out stats

Note: This is coming from a decently active day one character I have 0.2 strength

 

[Gary]

will strength/endurance effect overall weight and if so will strength be altered so it is actually able to go up, otherwise combine players get a massive advantage with auto maxed out stats

Note: This is coming from a decently active day one character I have 0.2 strength

I'm against the idea of incentivizing attribute farming, so currently they don't have an impact

 

[Oswald]

I'm against the idea of incentivizing attribute farming, so currently they don't have an impact

Awesome. Another thing
I have 1 travelling
4 pouches
1 bag

Will there be limit on how many “carrying” containers you can have; will it be like clockwork there you have a set amount of points which denote how many containers you can carry?

Will only movement speed be effected by carrying capacity or will stamina will be effected also?

 

[Gary]

Awesome. Another thing
I have 1 travelling
4 pouches
1 bag

Will there be limit on how many “carrying” containers you can have; will it be like clockwork there you have a set amount of points which denote how many containers you can carry?

Will only movement speed be effected by carrying capacity or will stamina will be effected also?

Currently there's a single backpack spot which includes all container types, will probably swap this out for unique pouch/backpack spots, may start off light as it'll be easy to accidentally give too much space with the system

Currently it is just movement speed but that can change

 

[Ond]

The whole charm of weight based inventory was to get rid of the obscenely annoying grid Tetris minigame - for me personally

 

[ovxy]

The whole charm of weight based inventory was to get rid of the obscenely annoying grid Tetris minigame - for me personally

It’s, unfortunately, a fundament of helix so it’s not easy to get rid of

 

[STUCK IN A CAKE]

It’s, unfortunately, a fundament of helix so it’s not easy to get rid of

I feel it can be mitigated slightly by making the inventory grid huge, but naturally you have to worry about being overweight

 

[Oswald]

I feel it can be mitigated slightly by making the inventory grid huge, but naturally you have to worry about being overweight

in real life and in game, I can't escape it

 

[Oswald]

The whole charm of weight based inventory was to get rid of the obscenely annoying grid Tetris minigame - for me personally

personally, I liked the Tetris, I get why people don't but I found it fun, it was like a little mini-game for me

 

[constantdisplay]

pls no

 

['77 East]

key problem with the grid system is a bunch of presumably weightless trinkets take up the same space as a hunting rifle if there's four or more

feedback would be cool

being able to have only a few of each specific storage type (instead of filling your inventory with backpacks) would be neat

o you can only carry one backpack (but the backpack gives the most storage, better backpacks give more, etc)
o other storage types would be belts, holsters (max 2), rifle sling, bags & pouches, some of these could be optimised for specific items

(e.g rifle sling is 1x5 or whatever fits a bulky rifle, encourage players to use them with weight modifiers over dumping guns in a backpack)

personally, I liked the Tetris, I get why people don't but I found it fun, it was like a little mini-game for me

grid system without the ability to rotate items is shite

especially when 4 cans of soda take up the same space as a submachinegun, just encourages people to dump their custom scripts / heirlooms for "that extra gun"

 

[Gary]

pls no

Is there any areas or specific reasonings? As I've stated in the thread multiple times (to try and make it clear that it is just a concept)

looking for actual feedback regarding it

 

[Gary]

key problem with the grid system is a bunch of presumably weightless trinkets take up the same space as a hunting rifle if there's four or more

Multiple bags can still exist within your inventory, which will basically make trinket storage endless, since the low weight will have barely any impact on the carrying weight even without the equip modifier

 

[maxi]

idk i dont think weight and grid should coexist together it'll just make it even more frustrating to manage inventory

 

[Numbers]

idk i dont think weight and grid should coexist together it'll just make it even more frustrating to manage inventory

Each item is like 1 slot bro we can just up the number of slots in a person's inventory since slots are obsolete

 

[Rabid]

My only request is to make things have a more realistic weight this time around tbh.

It'll piss people off (because the main reason anyone even wants a weight based system is to carry 500 rounds + 20 guns + 4 suits ala LP/CW) but it'll solve the main reason people wanted it axed for Helix.