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Sup, I can confidently say I know stuff about computers to inform people that would like to know more.
Just don't ask me about water cooling, cause I don't like it.
Golden rules of PCs.
Now I'll show you a build I plan on buying before University and the mindset or style of thinking so that new people understand how they have to think as well.
What's my goal?: I want a PC that will last 4+ years over University and can stream, edit, play games at 120-144 FPS at 1080p at overclocked frequencies, and also aesthetically (RGB & matching color scheme) looks good so I can show others how much s fucking nerd I am.
What's my price range?: 1250$ before taxes. 1350$ after taxes.
What hardware do I have already that I can use?: 1TB HDD, 1000W Gold Semi-Modular PSU, Windows 10, and CM Hyper 212 CPU Cooler.
What parts do I need to achieve my goals?:
Ryzen 5 CPU - Best CPU for media creation and gaming on the same machine in this price range.
Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler - I already have, and I can use. Plus I can purchase a better CPU cooler in the future.
B350 motherboard - it supports everything I need.
16GB DDR4 3200 speed RAM - I know Ryzen preforms better with better ram, and ones that are using Samsung Blu dies on the RAM DIMMs.
240gb SSD and 1TB HDD - I have the HDD and can afford to spend more on an SSD.
1000W PSU - I already have this.
GTX 1070+ or AMD RX Vega if that is good when it comes out.
If you want to do your own research feel free to ask any questions here, I most likely can awnser them.
If you want some YouTube channels or reddits to research with.
Use: reddit.com/r/buildapc
For YouTubers use,
Paul's Hardware
BitWit
JayZTwoCents
I don't really trust most of what LinusTechTips' channel says because most of the stuff he covers is either enthusiast, news, or unrealistic advice. Nor do I personally believe he cares about his vast audiences like the other guys do.
Just don't ask me about water cooling, cause I don't like it.
Golden rules of PCs.
- Don't ever buy laptops, or from premade companies. - they're businesses and typically spend more money on parts that are irrelevant or won't be used.
- Don't be afraid or intimidated about building a PC. They're easy to learn.
- Research anything you don't know.
- Always spend more money on CPU, GPU, Motherboard, Storage, RAM, and PSU. In that order.
- Don't forget about taxes for when purchasing your PC.
- Plan on upgrade paths in the future (AM4 - Ryzen 5 to Ryzen 7)
- Always use PCPartPicker.
- Don't ever buy Windows 10 from Amazon, just buy USB keys from eBay or keys from G2A or Kinguin. This is the cheapest, legal way. You can also pirate a copy, but you didn't hear that from me. ( I have a 9$ Windows 10 USB key from eBay)
Your CPU is the brain of the PC and is responsible for handling most tasks in the PC. You don't want to be cheap on this, unless it's for a really good reason.
When you buy a CPU buy the most expensive, reasonable, and one you'll actually utilize. (Don't buy a 400$ processor when you'll only use a 200$ processor's features and assets.)
In terms of what you need to know.
The CPU belongs to a socket. I.E (Ryzen chips = AM4) and that socket belongs to that same socket of motherboards.
All unlocked CPUs can be overclocked and I never suggest to buy a locked chip. Unless you're completely against overclocking for life.
When you buy a CPU buy the most expensive, reasonable, and one you'll actually utilize. (Don't buy a 400$ processor when you'll only use a 200$ processor's features and assets.)
In terms of what you need to know.
The CPU belongs to a socket. I.E (Ryzen chips = AM4) and that socket belongs to that same socket of motherboards.
All unlocked CPUs can be overclocked and I never suggest to buy a locked chip. Unless you're completely against overclocking for life.
The motherboard is the bones of your computer and provides an overall structure and upgrade path that you'll be available to. Also, motherboards have form factor, sockets, chipsets, memory types, Max memory, and other features.
- Form factor - ATX and mATX are the main ones, and you'll most likely want to buy ATX for sake of compatibility, unless you want a really small computer —or large computer— If that's the case there are other form factor which vary in price based on features and size typically. (miniITX, EATX, microATX)
- Sockets are the family your CPU belongs to and they have to match the motherboards socket.
- Chipsets are typically the features related to the motherboards. For AM4, there's A320, B350, and X370. A320 is the super limited, budget motherboard (don't buy these.) B350 is the consumer version at normal prices with a normal amount of features. (Usually, Ethernet, I/O Shields, 4-6 SATA ports, 4 memory slots) X370 is the enthusiast boards and usually contain things like better overclocking, RGB, better BIOS', more support and compatibility, etc.
- Memory types are what type of memory your motherboards accept from RAM type, generally there's only DDR3 and DDR4.
- Memory speed is what frequency your motherboard operates at, it can be anything from 1033-3200+ for DDR3 and 2133-4000+ for DDR4.
- Motherboards contain other features like Ethernet, wireless, onboard sounds cards, USB 3.0/3.1 ports, heatsinks, RGB headers, fan headers, M.2 slots or extra PCIE slots.
The GPU is typically the muscles of the PC and can make processes much more effective based on what you have.
Usually, just buy the best GPU in your budget because they all fit the same. Just don't buy founder editions or air blowback GPUs if you don't need them.
The GPU can be overclocked as well with processes and applications found on the internet
Usually, just buy the best GPU in your budget because they all fit the same. Just don't buy founder editions or air blowback GPUs if you don't need them.
The GPU can be overclocked as well with processes and applications found on the internet
Your storage is your hard drive, or SSDs. You'll genuinely want one of each in 2017. For Hard drives I recommend 1-2TB of space and you won't ever need much more unless you're a media creator. SSD is a much faster process for storage retrieval and you'll usually want to put only things you want to run fast on this. (Gmod, OS, any source game, Your main games) Never buy below 120 GB of SSD as your OS generally takes up about 60 GBs or more. I recommend buying 240GB+. Usually, all hard drives are connected by SATA ports. SSDs can be connected in a few different ways. (PCIE, M.2, and SATA) They're much faster in that order of connection too, although there's mostly huge price differences for each one.
RAM is your Random Access Memory, and can be thought of as hands. In this comparison as hands can only hold two things, the more hands you have, the more things that can be used.
RAM is similar. It's the type of memory that can be used at random times, like when opening chrome. Typically the more RAM you have the more processes you can have and operate at once.
Most gamers won't need it use more than 16 gigs of RAM. I recommend 8-16. Unless, y'know you're running multiple virtual machine that house terabytes of media.
Overall, make sure your motherboard supports what frequency your ram is at our else it'll downgrade it to what it's compatible with and you'll waste money.
RAM is similar. It's the type of memory that can be used at random times, like when opening chrome. Typically the more RAM you have the more processes you can have and operate at once.
Most gamers won't need it use more than 16 gigs of RAM. I recommend 8-16. Unless, y'know you're running multiple virtual machine that house terabytes of media.
Overall, make sure your motherboard supports what frequency your ram is at our else it'll downgrade it to what it's compatible with and you'll waste money.
Your power supply is the energy pumped into your computer that powers your computer.
Generally the Golden rule is to only buy supplies with 80+ efficiency certifications, which means that the PSU guarantees about 80% of what is pumped into the PC to be utilized. Bronze, silver, gold, platinum, and diamond PSUs all have better effective percentages, and I use gold. Every power supply has a certain Max wattage, and you always want to have enough wattage and more so your CPU doesn't kill over mid game, this has happened to me when I was running 650W on a 750W.
From what I've experienced you'll want to utilize about 66% of your wattage in the PSU. So if you use 660 Watts, you'll want a 1000 watt PSU. If you use 350 Watts, you can do this (350*.66=581) so you'll want a 600 watt PSU. This also leaves you with some upgrade room if you want a better GPU in the future that typically draws more power in the long run.
Generally the Golden rule is to only buy supplies with 80+ efficiency certifications, which means that the PSU guarantees about 80% of what is pumped into the PC to be utilized. Bronze, silver, gold, platinum, and diamond PSUs all have better effective percentages, and I use gold. Every power supply has a certain Max wattage, and you always want to have enough wattage and more so your CPU doesn't kill over mid game, this has happened to me when I was running 650W on a 750W.
From what I've experienced you'll want to utilize about 66% of your wattage in the PSU. So if you use 660 Watts, you'll want a 1000 watt PSU. If you use 350 Watts, you can do this (350*.66=581) so you'll want a 600 watt PSU. This also leaves you with some upgrade room if you want a better GPU in the future that typically draws more power in the long run.
The reason I didn't talk about the case in the buying order is because it varies, but a case on what you need, not what you want. Because you wore honestly don't even need cases for computers to run, they're vaguely just for aesthetics and ease of life set ups.
Now I'll show you a build I plan on buying before University and the mindset or style of thinking so that new people understand how they have to think as well.
What's my goal?: I want a PC that will last 4+ years over University and can stream, edit, play games at 120-144 FPS at 1080p at overclocked frequencies, and also aesthetically (RGB & matching color scheme) looks good so I can show others how much s fucking nerd I am.
What's my price range?: 1250$ before taxes. 1350$ after taxes.
What hardware do I have already that I can use?: 1TB HDD, 1000W Gold Semi-Modular PSU, Windows 10, and CM Hyper 212 CPU Cooler.
What parts do I need to achieve my goals?:
Ryzen 5 CPU - Best CPU for media creation and gaming on the same machine in this price range.
Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler - I already have, and I can use. Plus I can purchase a better CPU cooler in the future.
B350 motherboard - it supports everything I need.
16GB DDR4 3200 speed RAM - I know Ryzen preforms better with better ram, and ones that are using Samsung Blu dies on the RAM DIMMs.
240gb SSD and 1TB HDD - I have the HDD and can afford to spend more on an SSD.
1000W PSU - I already have this.
GTX 1070+ or AMD RX Vega if that is good when it comes out.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($227.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($189.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($165.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($500.00)
Case: Deepcool - DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Raidmax - 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $1222.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-10 17:32 EDT-0400
GTX 1070 is from eBay, and is local pickup just a city over.
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($227.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($189.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($165.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($500.00)
Case: Deepcool - DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Raidmax - 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $1222.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-10 17:32 EDT-0400
GTX 1070 is from eBay, and is local pickup just a city over.
If you want to do your own research feel free to ask any questions here, I most likely can awnser them.
If you want some YouTube channels or reddits to research with.
Use: reddit.com/r/buildapc
For YouTubers use,
Paul's Hardware
BitWit
JayZTwoCents
I don't really trust most of what LinusTechTips' channel says because most of the stuff he covers is either enthusiast, news, or unrealistic advice. Nor do I personally believe he cares about his vast audiences like the other guys do.
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