Nebulous, do you believe in an afterlife/god? Why? Why not?

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aren't jews, christians and muslims all still believers in the same god since they're all abrahamic religions anyway
 
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aren't jews, christians and muslims all still believers in the same god since they're all abrahamic religions anyway
Yes, and no. They all worship the same God as it was written in the Old Testament, but they practice it differently. Jews don't believe in the after life, aka Heaven. By Islamic standards, Christians aren't going to Heaven, and by Christian standards, Muslims aren't going to Heaven. Muslims tend to concede that Jesus was a prophet, but deny Him as the Messiah. Christians tend to view Jews as God's chosen people, but since they don't believe in a Heaven, there's no point in arguing that a Jew is going to Hell, and besides, Jesus was a Jew, and the Son of God, and logically speaking, if the covenant between God and the Jews is written in the Bible, then it is encouraged that Jews convert to follow Christ, the Son of God, however, it would be a stretch to say that God is angry with the Jews when his Son was in fact a Jew. I don't believe that God would hold a vengeance against Jews who had nothing to do with the killing of Christ, particularly considering that Jesus died for the sins of man.

I am by no means a theologian. I've only taken about 3 or 4 courses on religion in university, and I focus on Christianity.
 
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One is denying the possibility of God.
One is admitting uncertainty of where there is a God or not.

Atheism denies the existence of God as there's no scientific evidence of its existence.
Agnosticism states that the existence of God is impossible to know, it's unknowable.

One is putting the possibility out there, though states that since there's no evidence it doesn't exist.
The other doesn't even contemplate whether God exists or not, since "we wouldn't know anyways".

Agnostic atheism exists and it's a widely accepted philosophical position. Agnostic atheists are atheist since they do not believe in the existence of a God as there's no evidence of it, and they're agnostic as they do not think we would be capable of having knowledge of its existence at all anyways. And yes, they are not "closely linked" in the sense that both are boarding the topic of God at different points, however they can go together, and usually do.
 
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aren't jews, christians and muslims all still believers in the same god since they're all abrahamic religions anyway
Yes but christians believe in Jesus and the holy triangle which seperates them from the rest. Hence why jews aren't allowed to enter churches while we are allowed to enter mosques.
Muslims believe in god just use a different name being Allah
 
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Agnostic.
The way I see it, there's either a god that created the universe, but does not interfere with what's happening in our reality, or no god at all. I don't really believe in divine intervention or miracles.
And if there is a god, I don't think it'll be exactly how we portray it in any of our religions.
When it comes to an afterlife, I'm very skeptical of there being one. But then again, even that is hard to both prove and disprove, as I see it.
Sure would be nice for a life after death, though.
 
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i have blasphemed god often enough that i don't think he'd accept me into his temple

i believed in god, i still wish to do so but it's more to my benefit to do so, so if he did exist i don't think he'd want to convince someone who drops GD's on the regular

oh well
 
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i have blasphemed god often enough that i don't think he'd accept me into his temple

i believed in god, i still wish to do so but it's more to my benefit to do so, so if he did exist i don't think he'd want to convince someone who drops GD's on the regular

oh well
GD's?
 

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I grew up a Catholic but then went full athiest in my teens

now im not sure - I think organised religion is pretty stupid (The bible and other books are literally just copies of earlier folk tales) but that our concept of god is probably so limited that we have no idea of comprehending an existstance of one or not

interestingly enough I give most of the credit to psychedelics as to my views, i'd argue that they're probably the key as to finding out shit like this (if it can even be found out)
 
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I grew up a Catholic but then went full athiest in my teens

now im not sure - I think organised religion is pretty stupid (The bible and other books are literally just copies of earlier folk tales) but that our concept of god is probably so limited that we have no idea of comprehending an existstance of one or not

interestingly enough I give most of the credit to psychedelics as to my views, i'd argue that they're probably the key as to finding out shit like this (if it can even be found out)
drugs alter your state of mind aint no drug gonna be a key to finding out anything really
 

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dunno about spirits and shit but earlier today I had a sleep paralysis experience

straight up felt like I was dead, wasn't fun, don't wish it on anyone else

anyone had a similar thing happen to 'em?
 

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drugs alter your state of mind aint no drug gonna be a key to finding out anything really
Have a look at 'the mind, explained' on netflix and especially the episode on psychedelics

Im not some sort of scientist or w/e but the impact they have on our brain and especially our perception of the world and pyschology really needs work into it

I'm not saying they are the answer, i'm just saying that the effect they have is so unlike anything else studied that we should really investigate their uses into shit like this
 
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