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But in all honesty I think there should be a certain degree of organization within the civilian faction. In terms of who can do what.

I don't want the whole map to turn into a Mafia vs Soviet battleground. How do you guys plan to achieve a balance?

Don't want to intervene in player choice with regards to organisations, they can have whatever ideology or motives that they want as long as it fits with the setting and is serious. The balance can always be handled ICly, that certain civilian groups will have conflicts of interest or share interests and will naturally come into conflict or support of one another.

This isn't Civilians vs Soviets. It's all these different influencing factors; be it personal interests, NATO, Soviets et cetera - playing together.

Just say you have two groups pro-independence, fighting both 'sides' if you want to call it that, ideologically they may differ or one may want power over each other - they'll come into conflict with one another and that may lead to the losing group to seek help from one of the bigger influencing sides in order to get the upper hand.

Just one example of what may come about.
 

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Don't want to intervene in player choice with regards to organisations, they can have whatever ideology or motives that they want as long as it fits with the setting and is serious. The balance can always be handled ICly, that certain civilian groups will have conflicts of interest or share interests and will naturally come into conflict or support of one another.

This isn't Civilians vs Soviets. It's all these different influencing factors; be it personal interests, NATO, Soviets et cetera - playing together.

Just say you have two groups pro-independence, fighting both 'sides' if you want to call it that, ideologically they may differ or one may want power over each other - they'll come into conflict with one another and that may lead to the losing group to seek help from one of the bigger influencing sides in order to get the upper hand.

Just one example of what may come about.

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A BTR-60 rolls along the Bavarian country side, cruising at around fifty kilometers an hour down a dirt road. The day is full of life, the birds are out chirping, and a few farmers look out from their pasture as the vehicle plays its' tape loudly.

"You ever wonder why they just stop what they're doing and stare at us?", the gunner asks down to the crew, dipping down out of his post, manning the turret. Down below, one of the squad members lays comfortably resting against his seat with his eyes shut.

"It's not our duty to ask stupid questions..", the driver says, hunched over the wheel as he maneuvers through the windy road.

Standing back up and getting a new sense of the vicinity, the soldier manning the turret notices a few men in the distant tree line casually walking wearing rucksacks in the shade. Not thinking much of it, he glances back forth, watching their locomotive swallowing up the empty road.

"Why do we bother patrolling these dead roads anyways?", the man half asleep asks, keeping his eyes shut.

"Just to remind to locals that we're around.. I'm not complaining. I get to drive this thing more ten times more than my mother gets to drive her car. Just be glad you're not walking.", the driver peers over his shoulder, taking his eyes off the road for a few moments.

The man in the passenger seat reaches over, swatting the driver's shoulder,
"Keep your eyes on the road you dope, if you want to be driving more than your mother.", speaking in almost a threatening tone.

"Oh, don't you be a hard ass n—"


Suddenly, a blast sends the BTR's front upwards before it tumbles to the right, landing on its' side as an explosive device goes off below the APC's chassis.

The Soviets in the APC go nearly deaf, shell-shocked from the loud bang. As they gather their bearings, they'd notice the driver's out cold, his head bleeding on the steering wheel. The gunner's torso is bend awkwardly as its' been pinned between the ground and the rest of his body in the hatch. He didn't move.

A rustle from the bushes, and out comes a squad of casually dressed Germans with jackets, or simply shirts and their pants held up by suspenders. Of the four, one of them carries a M3 Grease Gun with a short stock, another with a double-barrel shotgun. The third and forth both carried AK-variants with their stocks disassembled.

Speaking up in German, they man holding onto the Grease Gun comments,
"Fuck, we've made a real mess out of things... plans are fucked.", looking to the body wedged in the upper hatch, expressing his doubts, he says, "I doubt the side doors will just open."

"No kidding.. we can't flip that car back up in time. There's no way.. The plan relied one-hundred percent on a clear hatch-way.", spoke up a man with a Hessian dialect, pointing out, "I bet this is already going through their radio.. we should leave immediately."

One of the two with the AK-variants hurries on over to the hole blasted in the bottom of the APC. Speaking in German, they'd ask in a feigned enthusiasm,
"What's happened? Anyone alive in there? What should I do?"

The hole was too small and jagged to crawl through, but a voice did respond,
"I'm-.. I'm bleeding bad! Please, get me help! Get me out of here!", in a panicked voice.

The German responds,
"Don't worry, —I'll go get help!", giving a few quick brushes of his feet against the ground outside, giving the impression of haste.

The German lets out a sigh before returning to the group. Outside of hearing range, they'd comment,
"Look, they're wounded bad, if we finish them, they'll start looking for us.. if they think it was just a bomb planted for some time, they might not be so thorough, let's leave it like this.. we will find a better target."

A few nods are given between the group before they slink back into the shrubbery, dispersing into the countryside.

About fifteen minutes later, a response team is arrives at the location of the flipped BTR-60.
The perpetrators of the bombing were never discovered, and considered at large.

 

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How will NATO factions work? I mean, considering that probably more due to the openness of this time there will likely be multiple NATO based factions if they are player led. So which ones will be supplied and become 'official'?
 

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How will NATO factions work? I mean, considering that probably more due to the openness of this time there will likely be multiple NATO based factions if they are player led. So which ones will be supplied and become 'official'?

As I believe I mentioned, 'returning' NATO characters not in the specialised faction are likely going to be in the form of 'civilians' with an authorized backstory / equipment, explained as leftover remnants from the battle for Europe or troops that have gone underground after their defeat. They'd be free to set up their own groups of vets or integrate with other factions / groups, though they'd have to be on their toes for soviet forces actively hunting ex-NATO personnel.

The 'official' sanctioned and logistically supplied NATO force would be the elusive and secretive hidden NJSOC Special Forces faction, comprised of covert operatives, intelligence officers and other specialists, though those can choose to share their intelligence / ordnance with trustworthy groups and allies, they'd have to be on the lookout for treason and groups working against their own agenda. Without revealing too much details, NJSOC would be a splintered group of individuals working their own angles with their own style, often independent from one another with one overseeing command structure that relays orders and information to them.
 
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What's NATOs reasoning for still staying on the map? Are the Soviets under armed or something?

NATO looks pretty fucked judging by that map char provided.
 
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[doublepost=1551236786][/doublepost]@Roosebud do you have any maps ready or in-mind which you're ready/willing to show us? that we might find ourselves on?

In a world divided between Communism and Capitalism, I wonder if we'll see resurgence in fascism as a third alternative being pushed by rebels as an alternative to the original two.
 
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What's NATOs reasoning for still staying on the map? Are the Soviets under armed or something?

NATO looks pretty fucked judging by that map char provided.

The main fighting takes place in the Asian campaigns we ended WW3RP on, with NATO in the european sector mainly focusing on defending their last bastion, the UK, while engaging in small-scale warfare in the form of SF units in occupied europe while not wanting to provoke another large front there. Soviet Union by now is overstretched to the point they can't properly respond to all the flashpoints, especially with only conscript, recovering and backwater units maintaining order in the newly annexed territories. The main lore for the concept consists mainly of the Soviet's inability to keep control after they've been too ambitious in their initial conquests.
 
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The main fighting takes place in the Asian campaigns we ended WW3RP on, with NATO in the european sector mainly focusing on defending their last bastion, the UK, while engaging in small-scale warfare in the form of SF units in occupied europe while not wanting to provoke another large front there. Soviet Union by now is overstretched to the point they can't properly respond to all the flashpoints, especially with only conscript, recovering and backwater units maintaining order in the newly annexed territories. The main lore for the concept consists mainly of the Soviet's inability to keep control after they've been too ambitious in their initial conquests.
Will we see the Peoples Liberation army?
 

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Will we see the Peoples Liberation army?

Refer to my previous post about China on that one, they don't really serve a role atm.

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[doublepost=1551236786][/doublepost]@Roosebud do you have any maps ready or in-mind which you're ready/willing to show us? that we might find ourselves on?

Uh, we've got some lined up and are working on a couple others, nothing I'd like to properly confirm as being 'the map' though

In a world divided between Communism and Capitalism, I wonder if we'll see resurgence in fascism as a third alternative being pushed by rebels as an alternative to the original two.

This has been adressed as well under the concept of allowing groups to fight for their own agendas and loyalties
 
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for the gun enthusiasts, this is some footage I took a while back. Should give a rough idea of the types of weaponry available.

Do note that you might see some glitched weapons, missing sounds, missing textures etc since it was still in the process of being fully fleshed out back then. Video doesn't contain all weapons and equipment, just a selection.

 

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It was October 29th, 1991 when I first met him. He was taller than I was, broad-shoulders. If he was American, he would play line-backer. His name is Wilhelm Ziegler, the military commander of the Stahlschwert partisans, a dangerous group, although, useful for the interests of the American state. He dressed modestly and from what the reports I've read told, he has quite a positive reputation among the local anti-Communist population, at least the pockets of which we've discovered. Earlier this year, intelligence confirms that the Stahlschwert partisans had assassinated Major Andrei Tereshkova in his motorcade passing through the city of Munich. In fact, their recent stunt is primarily the reason we're considering dealing with him. He's proven himself and the Stahlschwert effective.

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Ziegler and the Stahlschwert have been a thorn in the side of the Soviets' for years now, and he's been able to remain under the grid. I've been given clear directive to meet and organize a means to supply his partisans with munitions and equipment to harass Soviet supply routes, and depots. While it is clear to me that this serves no purpose other than to disrupt Soviet quotas and logistics, Ziegler appeared eager to accept support in exchange for their support of NATO objectives within the region. His willingness to accept a deal worries me of his faithfulness towards such arrangements once they're made and support is granted. While we made it abundantly clear, we want to assist in the liberation of Germany, there is much more of Europe to liberate before such things to consider, and to this, he said they'll be there when they do.

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As good as it may sound on paper, I'm not entirely sure if I trust Ziegler to be a man of his word. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, but I cannot help but feels as if these partisans have a vision of their own. He speaks of the Soviets and Communists interchangeably and with severe bitterness. I am uncertain myself as to whether or not this comes from losing your homeland to foreign invaders, or if its' his own personal convictions or a matter of both, but I do not believe this is a pet worth getting attached to. When it comes time to take by Europe back from the grips of Red Oppression, the wings of liberty will set free those who seek it. I just hope that the people in Europe will want to accept it.

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— Madison Bradley, Central Intelligence Agency, Special Activities Division

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