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that's pretty fucking terrible for a pie
Dallas, you're on this forum page to answer direct questions about HBO's Chernobyl and make kino shitposts if they should happen to arise.

Nothing else.

Certainly not policy.
 
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Binge watched the whole thing yesterday.

What I find truly terrifying about it is how silent and rapid the radiation was, you don't know what is or isn't radioactive you don't know what is or isn't safe to touch or where to be, it's just a complete guessing game as to whether these people will die or not, the aftermath is just as horrifying and the show was truly gripping and really portrays 1980's USSR in a very accurate light.

I've heard that the show is actually more accurate at depicting events then official USSR documents were at portraying them, one example is of the 3 men who went into the water, official documents report that all 3 died but 2 survived.

Also the likeness between the real characters and the actors is truly stunning.
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Really the resemblence between the actor and the real person is just striking in how similair it is.
 

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why can't we have just one show that doesn't need to get involved in politics
it's not the politics that frustrates me

it's just the grug brain interpretation of "le age of fake news xd"
The show is literally about a one party state with total power's incompetant handling of an emergency they don't know anything about?

Are you so blissfully ignorant that you think there is literally no politics at all in this show?
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[doublepost=1559692024][/doublepost]Didn't read through the comments of the linked video, thought you meant the show.
Also I would like to point out, the 93k death figure is just the figure of people who died of subsidual radiation poisoning as a result of the accident. It does not account for continued deaths as a result of the accident (in Ukraine and Belorus cancer rates are expected to rise by 25% over the next several years, and have done so steadily since Chernobyl.) As well as the residule deaths across Europe, the radiation spread from Central European Russia to Scandinavia to central Europe and then to Scotland. My dad recalls that in England at the time a lot of animals were deemed to be inedibale, the milk and meat from a lot of cows was totally inedible as the grass they had eaten was contaminated, which in turn raise prices for meat and other luxeries that couldn't be so easily gotten because of the radiation.

That 93k figure might just be an understatement
 

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The show is literally about a one party state with total power's incompetant handling of an emergency they don't know anything about?

Are you so blissfully ignorant that you think there is literally no politics at all in this show?
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Also I would like to point out, the 93k death figure is just the figure of people who died of subsidual radiation poisoning as a result of the accident. It does not account for continued deaths as a result of the accident (in Ukraine and Belorus cancer rates are expected to rise by 25% over the next several years, and have done so steadily since Chernobyl.) As well as the residule deaths across Europe, the radiation spread from Central European Russia to Scandinavia to central Europe and then to Scotland. My dad recalls that in England at the time a lot of animals were deemed to be inedibale, the milk and meat from a lot of cows was totally inedible as the grass they had eaten was contaminated, which in turn raise prices for meat and other luxeries that couldn't be so easily gotten because of the radiation.

That 93k figure might just be an understatement
When you make a -10 iq post because you are a mongoloid who cant read
 
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The show is literally about a one party state with total power's incompetant handling of an emergency they don't know anything about?

Are you so blissfully ignorant that you think there is literally no politics at all in this show?
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Also I would like to point out, the 93k death figure is just the figure of people who died of subsidual radiation poisoning as a result of the accident. It does not account for continued deaths as a result of the accident (in Ukraine and Belorus cancer rates are expected to rise by 25% over the next several years, and have done so steadily since Chernobyl.) As well as the residule deaths across Europe, the radiation spread from Central European Russia to Scandinavia to central Europe and then to Scotland. My dad recalls that in England at the time a lot of animals were deemed to be inedibale, the milk and meat from a lot of cows was totally inedible as the grass they had eaten was contaminated, which in turn raise prices for meat and other luxeries that couldn't be so easily gotten because of the radiation.

That 93k figure might just be an understatement
it's like u didnt even read my post

my issue is not the content, it is how grug brained US viewers use it as some parallel to their current fox news garbage discourse, separating chernobyl from its context you fucking muffin
 
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It's not that the show isn't political

it just knows a little thing called subtley and respect for the subject matter

not ham-fisted garbage like a lot of what gets churned out these days. Not to mention, from my knowledge - the shows success is based on the writing, characters and portrayal of the setting rather than any political message that might be behind it

as it should be
 
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im all for comparing chernobyl to three mile island, or windscale, or any of the dozen broken arrow incidents that have been covered up/surpressed over the years

but reducing the complexity of the chernobyl incident to serve a twitter cancel is shit praxis
 
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im all for comparing chernobyl to three mile island, or windscale, or any of the dozen broken arrow incidents that have been covered up/surpressed over the years

but reducing the complexity of the chernobyl incident to serve a twitter cancel is shit praxis
Not to mention the so-called "Instagram Influencers" that have used the recent infamy of the disaster to get likes on their posts are almost even more despicable than using it for fuel in political matters. Especially considering since they've actually traveled to the exclusion zone for photo shoots, where people have died. Some people have no moral boundaries.
 
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Not to mention the so-called "Instagram Influencers" that have used the recent infamy of the disaster to get likes on their posts are almost even more despicable than using it for fuel in political matters. Especially considering since they've actually traveled to the exclusion zone for photo shoots, where people have died. Some people have no moral boundaries.
Fucking hate people that go to places of death and suffering just to take pictures, like people going to the death camps is Poland to take pictures
 

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Fucking hate people that go to places of death and suffering just to take pictures, like people going to the death camps is Poland to take pictures
I wonder what visiting Pripyat would be like. Obviously, the background rad in most places would be completely harmless for a day trip or such, but I feel as if you would retain a lingering anxiety of all those glorious 3.6 roentgens coming to melt your skin off at the back of your mind, something only emphasised by the post apocalyptic vibe of the town
 

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I wonder what visiting Pripyat would be like. Obviously, the background rad in most places would be completely harmless for a day trip or such, but I feel as if you would retain a lingering anxiety of all those glorious 3.6 roentgens coming to melt your skin off at the back of your mind, something only emphasised by the post apocalyptic vibe of the town
I hope the instagram """"influences"""" get cancer from their stupid photo shoots so that people don't treat it like a holiday destination
 
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i think it's a deleted scene or something

or an edit
An edit. In the Chernobyl Podcast the writer Craig Mazin stated that they did not even consider filming Akimov's injuries because it felt too exploitative. Either way Akimov didn't have an actual hole in his face, but rather his skin was charcoal black by the time of his death.
 
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I wonder what visiting Pripyat would be like. Obviously, the background rad in most places would be completely harmless for a day trip or such, but I feel as if you would retain a lingering anxiety of all those glorious 3.6 roentgens coming to melt your skin off at the back of your mind, something only emphasised by the post apocalyptic vibe of the town
the radiation levels in pripyat spike around three times more than average background radiation now. you absorb more radiation on your flight to kiev than you would by staying in pripyat for a day

the infamous crane claw used in the immediate cleanup of fuel fragments and graphite emits 0.03 roentgen/hour. you would have to stand infront of it for 16,600 hours to get a fatal dose of radiation

decontaminating the area did more than we give it credit for
 

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Going to Prypiat as a means of discovering the lost relics of a bygone era in a respectful manner towards the hundreds of thousands who suffered and generally gaining sympathy for what the citizens there had to go through? I like.

Going to Pripyat for some shitty top 15 scariest places compilation or for a photo shoot in what used to be people’s homes and livelihoods because of a marketing strategy to promote some pretty sweatshop clothes? I dislike.
 
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