Chernobyl 2019

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  1. The photographer Nadav Kander put out some pretty tasteful pieces over a decade ago and they're very decent
     
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    Yeah that stuff's neat though, because it shows us what happens when humans suddenly vacate an area and never return. Gives insight as to just how much work it takes to maintain our modern life.

    Fuck people who use disasters to promote products though.
     
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    at like 3 minutes in are they throwing the graphite blocks over by hand????
    Merged:
     
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    to put it into scale, marsha roof was emitting 4 roentgen a second
     
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    I'm a dumb bitch and I wanna learn a little more about the radiation given off from the reactor and such.

    When I did physics I remember 3 types of Uranium being shown, one couldn't penetrate paper and was very weak and continued in distance of the radiation travelled almost indefinitely, the middle one could penetrate the paper but had a relatively short range, the last could penetrate a lot of materials but only had a very short range of a few inches.

    My question then is that, what I gather from this is that the greater the power of the Uranium the more it penetrates and damage it does the less distance it is able to travel. So how does this then relate to the radiation given off from Chernobyl, as it was able to reach all the way to England and was still lethal to livestock when it arrived, and it was obviously incredibly powerful. But parts of the actual site were relatively safe for people to be in at the time. So how exactly did the radiation travel such a great distance? How did it carry on going? Is it because it's a different type of Uranium or what?

    Someone who's good at physics please help, I want to learn more about radiation.
     
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    alternatively: think of the radiation as thousands of tiny bullets
     
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    alpha - stopped by skin/paper/almost anything. unbelievably lethal if swallowed
    beta - stopped by thin sheets of metal and clothing. can cause beta burns on skin which are not lethal
    gamma - stopped by very thick lead or concrete. the least damage of the three but penetrates the body and damages cells in the process

    think of the size of a human and then think about how much radiation was released into the air

    alpha, beta and gamma particles were exposed to the air after the explosion where the wind carried them over the continent. alpha and beta particles(incredibly lethal if ingested) were carried down onto england by the rain. the isotopes landed on the grass which was eaten by livestock. the livestock were then highly contaminated and any of their produce(milk, meat) would also be contaminated. if people consumed that produce they would also consume lethal alpha and beta particles and would die

    the word safe is used very loosely here. im assuming by safe you mean not pertaining to acute radiation sickness within minutes like the firefighters were. gamma radiation damages the cells. ARS occurs when you receive so much that the DNA in your cells is destroyed to the point where the cell is irreparable. the people who didn't develop ARS still received significant damage to their DNA because of their exposure and developed/will develop cancer in time, as cancer is caused by dna being unable to kill its own damaged cell and then dividing/growing uncontrollably.

    it was 'safer' as the liquidation progressed. in the first two days when they were still trying to figure out the scale of the disaster multiple kgb helicopter crews and other workers received lethal doses because they were simply unaware of how dangerous it was. as the reactor fire was extinguished and was smothered in sand the release of radioisotopes decreased. refer to the scene where the general informs legasov of the reduction in caesium-137 emissions
    amount of ionising radiation released into the air plus wind and rain
     
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    thanks really helpful.

    Also one thing I want to touch on.
    None of the helicopters actually hit their mark, all of them missed. Literally no sand or Borium made it into the reactor. Recent tests proved that, although that wasn't known at the time.
     
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    rewatching the chernobyl series for the 5th time

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    Man why did they have to give us a front on shot IN FULL LIGHTING for like 3 seconds of it.

    WHY?
     
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    They are miners, aka chads.
     
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    better question is why didn't we get more frontal shots
     
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    Based and shaunpilled
     
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    I think there's an interview with some actual Tula miners out there that went to dig the tunnel.
    Basically:
    • Never threathened with guns
    • Would not have been drinking inbetween shifts at all
    • They would have given management lip
    • They never got naked despite the heat
     
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    no they dug the old way youre lying
     
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    yeah they dug naked bro
    https://takiedela.ru/2016/06/likvidator/

    In Chernobyl, he worked for two weeks. Every day - two shifts of three hours, on your knees at 60 degrees of heat, next to the fourth reactor of the nuclear power plant.

    “We went out to work as doctors of sciences: white suits, caps, gauze bandages, we took with us gas masks, respirators, boots that look like sneakers — only long ones like boots. No special radiation protection. And since our shifts were nocturnal, there were no special inspectors, they went during the day. We both undressed, otherwise we would have boiled there or suffocated. As you left the mine, you would suffocate to death - there was a liter of each sweat boot.

    edit: I went through it more and I didn't see anything about drinking while mining but they did drink after mining because they believed it would eliminate the radiation
     
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    Pretty much all workers from all branches drank at Chernobyl, from soldiers to miners and industrial operators.

    The initial pretense given to people was that it’d drastically reduce the radiation received but the reality was that it did nothing and served purely to increase morale and ensure workers were more likely to throw themselves into difficult/dangerous situations they normally wouldn’t do whilst sober.
     
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    got peer pressured into watching it
    episode 3 is the worst for graphics by far
     
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