A quick rant on the only problem of Windows 7

[Goatson]

We all love good ol' Windows 7 right? Well there is one thing I absolutely hate about it. Windows 7 cashes your RAM and is supposed to free this cached RAM up when it is needed, but for me and many others it doesn't do that and you have to do it manually. This might not sound like that big of a deal but it is when you realize that it caches litterally 10GBs of RAM. 10 GBs that I can't use unless I manually free it up. The reason I am even writing this is because my GMod crashed because of lack of RAM during a /me fight on FT:RP (whoever it was I was doing it with, I appologize for dissappearing). This made me so fucking mad because I wasn't able to develop my character in the aftermath of a large event. This is the only problem I have with Windows 7 and I just needed to let of some steam by typing this.

TL : DR Fuck RAM autocahing

 

[gigi]

ive never encountered this problem
always got access to my beautiful 16gb of sexy as fuck ram

 

[Goatson]

ive never encountered this problem
always got access to my beautiful 16gb of sexy as fuck ram

As I said, not all people experience this, but look it up on the internet and you'll find other people with the same problem.

 

[gigi]

As I said, not all people experience this, but look it up on the internet and you'll find other people with the same problem.

unlucky
at most i've got 4 gig cached but i doubt having 12 gig instead of 16 is gonna kill my pc, but im confused, wouldnt it be a simple on time set instead of having to manually set it every time you load the pc

 

[Goatson]

unlucky
at most i've got 4 gig cached but i doubt having 12 gig instead of 16 is gonna kill my pc, but im confused, wouldnt it be a simple on time set instead of having to manually set it every time you load the pc

It's nothing you can do with normal computer settings, you are technically not even supposed to be able to clear it manually. I use a program called RAMmap that you can clean it with. RAMmap doesn't have an automatic setting.

 

[R40UL]

I used to have the same problem with an old computer that also had Windows 7, it cached about 75% of the available RAM and from time to time it bluescreened the hell out of my computer, however I was told it was caused by the BIOs of the computer itself. Somehow it was able to set the default RAM cache to a specific amount and in the case of having lower RAM than the one set by the BIOs the computer would just crash at start up.
It basically fixed itself after I replaced it.

 

[NightVeil]

I used to have the same problem with an old computer that also had Windows 7, it cached about 75% of the available RAM and from time to time it bluescreened the hell out of my computer, however I was told it was caused by the BIOs of the computer itself. Somehow it was able to set the default RAM cache to a specific amount and in the case of having lower RAM than the one set by the BIOs the computer would just crash at start up.
It basically fixed itself after I replaced it.

Wait a moment, if it need the RAM for startup, why would it cache it while he was using It after startup?

 

[R40UL]

Wait a moment, if it need the RAM for startup, why would it cache it while he was using It after startup?

That is exactly why I said "I was told" I know about computers but I didn't know the BIOs was capable of doing stuff like that.
I was told by a computer store owner, who yes, looked like the type of guy who would slash your car's tires while you are sleeping. But atleast he fixed it so.

 

[NightVeil]

That is exactly why I said "I was told" I know about computers but I didn't know the BIOs was capable of doing stuff like that.
I was told by a computer store owner, who yes, looked like the type of guy who would slash your car's tires while you are sleeping. But atleast he fixed it so.

Huh.

Well, as far a my knowledge, the BIOS for startup procedures and nothing much else.

 

[Koch]

Not sure what you guys have done to your computer but we manage 2000~ Windows 7 computers at work and none of them have had this issue

 

[R40UL]

Huh.

Well, as far a my knowledge, the BIOS for startup procedures and nothing much else.

Well, the BIOs does take care of starting up any hardware installed on the computer, so it makes sense it would take care of starting up the RAM... but then if you think about it, it might have also initiated some extra hardware on the BIOs that immediately changed the cache?
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Not sure what you guys have done to your computer but we manage 2000~ Windows 7 computers at work and none of them have had this issue

It is unusual for that to happen. Especially on office computers that are constantly checked and repaired to ensure they work, so no surprise you haven't seen it at your work.

 

[NightVeil]

Well, the BIOs does take care of starting up any hardware installed on the computer, so it makes sense it would take care of starting up the RAM... but then if you think about it, it might have also initiated some extra hardware on the BIOs that immediately changed the cache?
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It is unusual for that to happen. Especially on office computers that are constantly checked and repaired to ensure they work, so no surprise you haven't seen it at your work.

Yeah, the BIOS most likely does pass off to other software after the startup, so What ever that software is could be your problem.

Windows does usually have a list of programs that run in startup, and how performance hampering they are. Check there.

 

[Deleted member 442]

Windows automatically caches most if not all available ram and releases it as needed for programs. That's typically what happens. You also need to take into account things like SuperFetch. Windows goes by the notion of "Unused memory is wasted memory." While performance monitoring tools including the default performance monitor won't show it as being actively used, it's still being cached by Windows.

p.s. upgrade to windows 10 :3

 

[Goatson]

p.s. upgrade to windows 10 :3

No. 7 master race

 

[Koch]

No. 7 master race

Why?

 

[Deleted member 442]

7 is soon to be a completely dead OS and will not be able to take advantage of newer processors due to Microsoft ceasing driver support. They're starting the phaseout with Skylake. There's no real excuse to not go to Windows 10 except in business/enterprise environments.

Windows 7 and 8/8.1 will not be supported for Intel's Kaby Lake, Qualcomm's 8996, and AMDs Bristol Ridge. Enjoy being fucked because you want to sit on a dead OS. 7 and 8/8.1 are only getting limited Skylake support that will soon be phased out. They're taking a step beyond just phasing out regular updates and security updates, they're going to lock you out of hardware all together.

 

[moonman]

There's no real excuse to not go to Windows 10 except in business/enterprise environments.r.

except hating the design, poor support for older titles, ms spying, the absolute BULLSHIT in the form of the "universal app system"... the list goes on and on, im staying on windows 7 'til they drop support for it, just like windows XP.

 

[Deleted member 442]

except hating the design, poor support for older titles, ms spying, the absolute BULLSHIT in the form of the "universal app system"... the list goes on and on, im staying on windows 7 'til they drop support for it, just like windows XP.

All that "spying" aka telemetry data that like everything else you use pulls as well can easily be disabled or blocked (shit a lot of this is addressed even during initial install). Support has been getting better, worst case VM it if it is totally necessary or rely on compatibility settings. The design is fucking fine like what's the problem? Because it's a little sleeker and miminalist? The start menu is back and even better than the old one for everyone that circle jerks the start menu. That "universal app system" is what's bringing shit like Halo 5 and Halo Wars 2 to PC and will be a platform for future games that can easily be ported from Xbone to W10 given the nature of their OS. Windows 7 and 8/8.1 are losing support fast and it's starting in one of the most critical areas: hardware. Windows 10 is faster, sleeker, and an objectively better performing OS than Windows 7 and builds upon what was great about Windows 7 and Windows 8 and made it even better.

Integration isn't a bad thing and Microsoft, and I can't believe I'm saying this, is making a good move by doing this. They do not want, and cannot have another XP thing where everyone is panicking to upgrade because they decided to sit on their asses. I had to deal with the jumping ship from XP asap bullshit at my old job, and this was on a massive level for local government with thousands of systems that had to be replaced. My hatred for idly jerking off to older OS's is well grounded in real world example of why sitting on an old, out of date, and practically unsupported OS can be a very bad thing.

 

[Hanuko]

except hating the design, poor support for older titles, ms spying, the absolute BULLSHIT in the form of the "universal app system"... the list goes on and on, im staying on windows 7 'til they drop support for it, just like windows XP.

spying can be disabled wtf, poor support for older titles??? i can run ANY game on windows 10, there's no universal app system wtf do you mean???

 

[Deleted member 442]

spying can be disabled wtf, poor support for older titles??? i can run ANY game on windows 10, there's no universal app system wtf do you mean???

There is a universal app system, it's meant to help integrate the Xbox One, Windows 10 PCs, and Windows Phone 10. It's why we're seeing Halo 5 (just Forge rn) coming to Windows 10, as well as Halo Wars 2 (I believe the new Forza game is utilizing the same standard as well). Xbox One's OS is basically Windows 10 and so is Windows Phone 10. They share a common architecture providing a standard for apps that can work across platforms.

Think of it as how Apple integrates all their devices as well as they do, especially with latest OS X revisions becoming more iOS like. They implemented a single standard for their OS so each device can integrate with near perfection with apps and all that shit.