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Straight dudes watching lesbians fuck, and straight women watching gay dudes fuck are simply objectifying the relationship/homosexual acts. It's not because they have homosexual inclinations themselves. Arguably it's more of a visual cue or "pop" factor rather than "mmm lesbians", you get what I mean? Straight dudes find women sexually attractive. Straight dudes find women enjoying sex to be sexually attractive. Add another chick in the mix and you get double the fun. It's about the whole women thing, not the lesbianism itself.

I mean it's also literally impossible for a dude to be a lesbian, so you really cannot be sliding around on the scale being a cishet dude getting off to chicks smashing pasties.

I mean, I know why most men watch Lesbian porn (hehehea so i don’t gotta see dudes in it)

but isn’t there a chance, like an inkling of chance some dude who watches this stuff and goes “hey, those two chicks?

They’re fucking and I accept gay people exist”

It’s something just you know, internal like a switch. It “normalizes” homosexuality for them.

also gay to me just means liking the same sex I don’t really hone in on the terms
 

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I mean, I know why most men watch Lesbian porn (hehehea so i don’t gotta see dudes in it)

but isn’t there a chance, like an inkling of chance some dude who watches this stuff and goes “hey, those two chicks?

They’re fucking and I accept gay people exist”

It’s something just you know, internal like a switch. It “normalizes” homosexuality for them.

also gay to me just means liking the same sex I don’t really hone in on the terms

most lesbian porn is aimed at straight men and its shit
 
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I mean, I know why most men watch Lesbian porn (hehehea so i don’t gotta see dudes in it)

but isn’t there a chance, like an inkling of chance some dude who watches this stuff and goes “hey, those two chicks?

They’re fucking and I accept gay people exist”

It’s something just you know, internal like a switch. It “normalizes” homosexuality for them.

also gay to me just means liking the same sex I don’t really hone in on the terms

Finding yourself normalized to homosexual behavior is entirely different than having homosexual feelings. Those are two entirely different concepts.
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most lesbian porn is aimed at straight men and its shit

It really is awful. I mean studio porn is bad, then there's just bad lesbian studio porn
 
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Finding yourself normalized to homosexual behavior is entirely different than having homosexual feelings. Those are two entirely different concepts.

I'd also argue that fetishization is a very different thing than acceptance
 

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I'll be honest bud I had you ignored till now so I didn't see it
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That too. I thought I kinda touched on that with my bit about objectification and he brought up a unicorn case.

unicorns would mean like it’ll never happen cause it doesn’t exist

I’m sure it happens, normalizing gay behavior is better than what we’ve got now
 

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unicorns would mean like it’ll never happen cause it doesn’t exist

I’m sure it happens, normalizing gay behavior is better than what we’ve got now

Such a case you're talking about is so rare it's negligible in terms of fighting homophobia. Like so rare and so negligible that it might as well be non existent. As Akulalalala and I pointed out, 99.99% of lesbian porn is geared toward straight men that is strictly fetishizing lesbian sex. Trans porn is exactly the same way and is probably worse in that regard.

Fetishizing homosexuality is almost as bad, if not as bad as outright homophobia. It's still fairly dehumanizing and treats the person/couple as objects rather than actual tolerance and respect for their orientation, lives, and the whole homosexual experience & culture.
 

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demonelite posting coherent things I agree with is a strange experience, what happened

Fetishizing homosexuality is almost as bad, if not as bad as outright homophobia.

I'd argue it's more or less the same thing as the people who call me a degenerate and also think I'm a piece of meat they can jerk off too are more or less the same people most of the time

It's still fairly dehumanizing and treats the person/couple as objects rather than actual tolerance and respect for their orientation, lives, and the whole homosexual experience & culture.

if I had a dollar for every time some guy thought my sexuality was just "for show" and that they could "fix" me with their sexual advances I wouldn't need to go to my shitty understaffed job tonight. It results in a culture of "lesbians only exist for me, they can't possibly have their own desires or agency"
 
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I'd argue it's more or less the same thing as the people who call me a degenerate and also think I'm a piece of meat they can jerk off too are more or less the same people most of the time



if I had a dollar for every time some guy thought my sexuality was just "for show" and that they could "fix" me with their sexual advances I wouldn't need to go to my shitty understaffed job tonight. It results in a culture of "lesbians only exist for me, they can't possibly have their own desires or agency"

Good point.

They wanna jerk off to you but not give you rights. It's odd. Sad, but still odd.
 
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Good point.

They wanna jerk off to you but not give you rights. It's odd. Sad, but still odd.

it's honestly kind of interesting to see how homophobia is conducted in regards to the gender of the queer person in question

homophobia against gay men tends to be more open and violent, whereas homophobia towards gay women tends to be more insidious, maniuplative and understated (As a general rule, of course, both happens to both genders, but talking as a general trend here)

not that one is "worse or better" than the other, it's just interesting to see how it plays out. Both are equally bad for different reasons imo
 
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mfw was texting long-distance bf last year right before going out and then got stopped by an armed dpr patrol who wanted to check my phone, but when i pulled it out it was dead cus battery died right after i went outside so they let me go after checking my papers instead

i was this close to being sent to dpr nova prospekt
 
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people in this thread have fucked people of their own gender, and you're still gayer than them
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mfw was texting long-distance bf last year right before going out and then got stopped by an armed dpr patrol who wanted to check my phone, but when i pulled it out it was dead cus battery died right after i went outside so they let me go after checking my papers instead

i was this close to being sent to dpr nova prospekt
Damn Hoovie, best take care. Hope nothing bad happens to you. My cousin is gay and the only gay one in our family. For a 'muslim' family, we seem to be pretty accepting. He's fun to talk to
 

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Damn Hoovie, best take care. Hope nothing bad happens to you. My cousin is gay and the only gay one in our family. For a 'muslim' family, we seem to be pretty accepting. He's fun to talk to
thx and it's fine b/c i'm currently larping as a straight w/ a big titty irl gf (being bi / pan is nice) but having the state actively demonize ppl and hunt them down for their sexuality is fucked. homosex is literally criminalized in this hellhole and the martial law makes it really hard to be covert about it without attracting the state's suspicion
 

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Damn Hoovie, best take care. Hope nothing bad happens to you. My cousin is gay and the only gay one in our family. For a 'muslim' family, we seem to be pretty accepting. He's fun to talk to

despite the stereotypes I don't think I've ever met a Muslim (in person) who disrespected me or was hostile to me in any way because of who I was, hell, one of my roomates is Muslim and he's chill as fuck with me, a much better experience than I had with the wacko Catholics in the shitty one horse town I grew up in for sure. (Known some chill Christians too, not all are bad, yadda yadda)
 

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despite the stereotypes I don't think I've ever met a Muslim (in person) who disrespected me or was hostile to me in any way because of who I was, hell, one of my roomates is Muslim and he's chill as fuck with me, a much better experience than I had with the wacko Catholics in the shitty one horse town I grew up in for sure. (Known some chill Christians too, not all are bad, yadda yadda)
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