Serious LGBT Thread

[Deleted member 442]

Return the thread to it's peaceful nature once more please.

Things will return to normal once they fuck off and disappear for another year. Or forever.

 

[Nov]

I'll say sorry to the people I made feel hurt, not to them.

you don't get it

 

[jb]

I'll say sorry to the people I made feel hurt, not to them.

Im ashkenazi can you say sorry to me

 

[Inaudible™]

I take it everyone just ignored what I said and will continue dogpiling.
Real.

 

[Deleted member 442]

In light of a neo-nazi showing up with their dumb bullshit

I am providing something cute.



also, fuck off nazi scum.

 

[Gabby]

I take it everyone just ignored what I said and will continue dogpiling.
Real.

At least you tried

 

[Frosty]

It’s pretty hard to say sorry when people are ganging up on you calling you names and that like

 

[Goopy]

I think it's time I come clean.
I used to watch steven crowder and argue in current affairs.

i used to be a trumpie ben shabipo fan who posted obama mic drop gifs in current affairs too
its ok everyone has seen some sort of radicalisation in their developmental years

 

[Inaudible™]

It’s pretty hard to say sorry when people are ganging up on you calling you names and that like

I can't believe I agree with frosty

 

[Dallas]

At least you tried

It’s pretty hard to say sorry when people are ganging up on you calling you names and that like

you can't expect to be welcomed into a community that you spent years (literally years) calling faggots if you won't even show regret?

lmao

 

[Nov]

It’s pretty hard to say sorry when people are ganging up on you calling you names and that like

that is not the point
he isn't required to be sorry to them

he is supposed to acknowledge that he did wronging in insulting minorities
what is so hard to fucking understand

 

[Goopy]

that is not the point
he isn't required to be sorry to them

he is supposed to acknowledge that he did wronging in insulting minorities
what is so hard to fucking understand

hate to be that person
*she

if you will purposefully miss-pronoun someone for their wrong-doings, it's saying to trans people that "the moment you do something i don't like, you're not you"

not saying you're doing it on purpose

 

[Deleted member 442]

It’s pretty hard to say sorry when people are ganging up on you calling you names and that like

It's pretty hard to take that non-existent sorry seriously when they unironically stan for motherfuckers like gobbels.

it's not like they were just posting tucker carlson videos, they unironically thought the nazis did nothing wrong, and that was in addition to their right wing schizo posting.

 

[Nov]

hate to be that person
*she

if you will purposefully miss-pronoun someone for their wrong-doings, it's saying to trans people that "the moment you do something i don't like, you're not valid"

not saying you're doing it on purpose

I wasn't doing it intentionally, primarily because I was unaware of the fact that she wants to be addressed by such pronouns.
My bad.

 

[Inaudible™]

I wasn't doing it intentionally, primarily because I was unaware of the fact that she want's to be addressed by such pronouns.
My bad.

Did u even read their post? The first one? If you did you would know to at least say they them
Good for acknowledging your bad tho.
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It's pretty hard to take that non-existent sorry seriously when they unironically stan for motherfuckers like gobbels.

it's not like they were just posting tucker carlson videos, they unironically thought the nazis did nothing wrong, and that was in addition to their right wing schizo posting.

You're attacking someone and telling them the only way for it to stop is for an apology, all you're gonna get is a forced apology that means nothing in the end most likely, that's that's I would do at least.

 

[the last man]

"trans person violently buries the idea of accepting their identity by diving deep into doing massive cringe loser shit on the internet that they first saw when they were young" is very common (i did it too lmao)

Exclusion and social rejection generally on the whole leads to a developed need for feelings of belonging, community and identity that comes from other places than conventional society. People who suffer sexual and gender identity issues generally have a pervailing feeling of being marginalized and excluded from wider society. If you do not feel like you conform to the conventional societal identities you will naturally flock to alternative outlets. A lot of young people who are nazis are on the whole socially marginalized and have developed a special perception of themselves as a marginalized group. If you can then find identity and community with people who are similary to you also marginalized then oyu will stay and uphold the beliefs and ideology of the the people in those communities. With the development of internet radicalization, non-conventional societal identity is very easily found and comformed to. This manifests in the forms of beliefs in radical ideologies that often fetishize violence in many forms. Most notably and commonly nazism.

The first reaction to non-conformative sexual or gender identity thoughts is to reject it entirely and to seek comfort in a form of denial and total rejection. You will reject your issues and (should you already identity as a Cishet white male) double down on a held pereception of cishet male supremacy.

This is all well known and understood and explains the infamous "pattern" of people who suffer from gender dysphoria or conflicts in sexual identity often finding themselves as nazis, ultra-conservatives or fascists.



I think the deeper connection to fascism/nazism as an ideology fit for those who reject their creeping feelings of gender- and sexual-nonconformity is much more interesting than the baseline understand of social exclusion. We will now head into hot take territory where I will explain the deep rooted connection between nazism and sexual identity as I understand it (from studying extremism and identity in the context of political science).

Fundamentally, the fascist belief in traditional power structures is a phenomenon of sexual dominance as an understanding of all expressions of power. The fascist thought structure roots itself in this belief as sexual hierarchies of dominance as an expression of power in its most basic and fundamental form. This is why you see a lot of fascist appeals to sexual claims as a means of argument. I.e. great replacement theory, a belief in "immigrants taking white women", etc etc. It is rooted deeper than a general appeal to an understanding of threats to your community (whether those be the family unit or the national identity), tied directly to the understanding of sexual dominance being translated into the expression of power. To the nazi, a black man in a relationship with a white woman is a tragedy not only because he perceives it as a threat to his community and identity, but because he perceives the black man as performing control over the sexual dominance, in turn wielding general power. He believes this because he understands power, regardless of how its exercised or how it is formed, roots itself in the fundamentals of sexual dominance.

This is why the fascist/nazi ideological perception rejects all forms of non-Cishet (white) male identity and why it is attractive as an alternative of total rejection and denial of your own feelings of nonconforming sexual- or gender-identity. You come to understand the necessity of your cishet male identity in terms of fundamental expressions of power. If you are LGBTQ or a woman (trans or cis), you lose the fundamental control over sexual dominance and in turns you lose power. This not only helps you deny and reject your own feelings of sexual- and gender-identity, but provides you with the perception that losing your existing identity as a cishet male is equal to a total loss of power in the most fundamental way. This is why you see a trend of people recovering out of the slumps of right-wing extremism also coming out as trans or of a non-conforming sexual identity. Their rejection of their nonconformity has not only been helped by but was also locked in by their fundamental understanding of the world and power expressed within it.

They initially sought out the ideological identity as a compelling form of assistance to their denial and rejection, yet found ultimately found themselves locked in between two fundamentally conflicting lines of belief; the free expression of their deepest feelings of gender/sexual identity and the fundamental understanding of sexual dominance as the fundamental structure of power.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

 

[Nov]

Did u even read their post? The first one? If you did you would know to at least say they them
Good for acknowledging your bad tho.

again it does not help that I have the sad boy on ignore, I miss like half of the messages.

 

[Inaudible™]

Exclusion and social rejection generally on the whole leads to a developed need for feelings of belonging, community and identity that comes from other places than conventional society. People who suffer sexual and gender identity issues generally have a pervailing feeling of being marginalized and excluded from wider society. If you do not feel like you conform to the conventional societal identities you will naturally flock to alternative outlets. A lot of young people who are nazis are on the whole socially marginalized and have developed a special perception of themselves as a marginalized group. If you can then find identity and community with people who are similary to you also marginalized then oyu will stay and uphold the beliefs and ideology of the the people in those communities. With the development of internet radicalization, non-conventional societal identity is very easily found and comformed to. This manifests in the forms of beliefs in radical ideologies that often fetishize violence in many forms. Most notably and commonly nazism.

The first reaction to non-conformative sexual or gender identity thoughts is to reject it entirely and to seek comfort in a form of denial and total rejection. You will reject your issues and (should you already identity as a Cishet white male) double down on a held pereception of cishet male supremacy.

This is all well known and understood and explains the infamous "pattern" of people who suffer from gender dysphoria or conflicts in sexual identity often finding themselves as nazis, ultra-conservatives or fascists.



I think the deeper connection to fascism/nazism as an ideology fit for those who reject their creeping feelings of gender- and sexual-nonconformity is much more interesting than the baseline understand of social exclusion. We will now head into hot take territory where I will explain the deep rooted connection between nazism and sexual identity as I understand it (from studying extremism and identity in the context of political science).

Fundamentally, the fascist belief in traditional power structures is a phenomenon of sexual dominance as an understanding of all expressions of power. The fascist thought structure roots itself in this belief as sexual hierarchies of dominance as an expression of power in its most basic and fundamental form. This is why you see a lot of fascist appeals to sexual claims as a means of argument. I.e. great replacement theory, a belief in "immigrants taking white women", etc etc. It is rooted deeper than a general appeal to an understanding of threats to your community (whether those be the family unit or the national identity), tied directly to the understanding of sexual dominance being translated into the expression of power. To the nazi, a black man in a relationship with a white woman is a tragedy not only because he perceives it as a threat to his community and identity, but because he perceives the black man as performing control over the sexual dominance, in turn wielding general power. He believes this because he understands power, regardless of how its exercised or how it is formed, roots itself in the fundamentals of sexual dominance.

This is why the fascist/nazi ideological perception rejects all forms of non-Cishet (white) male identity and why it is attractive as an alternative of total rejection and denial of your own feelings of nonconforming sexual- or gender-identity. You come to understand the necessity of your cishet male identity in terms of fundamental expressions of power. If you are LGBTQ or a woman (trans or cis), you lose the fundamental control over sexual dominance and in turns you lose power. This not only helps you deny and reject your own feelings of sexual- and gender-identity, but provides you with the perception that losing your existing identity as a cishet male is equal to a total loss of power in the most fundamental way. This is why you see a trend of people recovering out of the slumps of right-wing extremism also coming out as trans or of a non-conforming sexual identity. Their rejection of their nonconformity has not only been helped by but was also locked in by their fundamental understanding of the world and power expressed within it.

They initially sought out the ideological identity as a compelling form of assistance to their denial and rejection, yet found ultimately found themselves locked in between two fundamentally conflicting lines of belief; the free expression of their deepest feelings of gender/sexual identity and the fundamental understanding of sexual dominance as the fundamental structure of power.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

Did you type that whole thing out? God damn.

 

[Gabby]

that is not the point
he isn't required to be sorry to them

he is supposed to acknowledge that he did wronging in insulting minorities
what is so hard to fucking understand

I'm not gonna make a long winded post about all the shit I said and did with lots of ... at the end of every paragraph all dramatic and shit. But hey, to EVERYONE that I degraded and put down as a person over the years, that shit is on me. I said that stuff on my own will and I'm very much incapable of taking away that. Right now I'm having to deal with nazi punks after saying the same thing I posted a while ago and I know just how awful it feels having a person stalk you and harass you for hours on end just being who you are. I did that to all of you, I treated you less as a person and more like text on screen saying things I thought was abnormal.

 

[Inaudible™]

again it does not help that I have the sad boy on ignore, I miss like half of the messages.

Understandable have a nice day