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[Subeh]

then the mother decided to change her mind

you dont just 'change your mind'

you should be fucking locked up if you plan to have a child then change your mind after it's been conceived

 

[Sparky]

you dont just 'change your mind'

you should be fucking locked up if you plan to have a child then change your mind

Did I ever say I disagree? That is why I said the "latter" (planned pregnancy) is a different situation.

 

[Goatson]

It depends on if the pregnancy was accidental or if it was planned and then the mother decided to change her mind. I could see requiring an agreement for the latter, but accidental pregnancies should be 100% up to the mother.

Matey
If you went an fucked a girl at suddenly get to know shes pregnant, and youre in no position to take care of a preggo gal or a child, and have life shit to take care of
Girl wants to keep the baby

Would you honestly want that baby in your name
Women aren't the only people we should be concerned about, men have lives to, lives that having a kid to early can fuck up majorly
It's the same reason some men avoid women who explicitly want kids when tey're not ready themselves

 

[Subeh]

Did I ever say I disagree? That is why I said the "latter" (planned pregnancy) is a different situation.

oh right sorry read it wrong

point still stands tho

 

[Sparky]

@Stalker is rating disagree your only counterargument?

Matey
If you went an fucked a girl at suddenly get to know shes pregnant, and youre in no position to take care of a preggo gal or a child, and have life shit to take care of
Girl wants to keep the baby

Would you honestly want that baby in your name
Women aren't the only people we should be concerned about, men have lives to, lives that having a kid to early can fuck up majorly
It's the same reason some men avoid women who explicitly want kids when tey're not ready themselves

I mean, you shouldn't be having unprotected sex in a one night relationship and then bail out. If the girl is unusually adamant about using no protection, any sensible man should get the hell out of there. For all you know she could be poking holes in the condom even with protection.

 

[Deleted member 5658]

Matey
If you went an fucked a girl at suddenly get to know shes pregnant, and youre in no position to take care of a preggo gal or a child, and have life shit to take care of
Girl wants to keep the baby

Would you honestly want that baby in your name
Women aren't the only people we should be concerned about, men have lives to, lives that having a kid to early can fuck up majorly
It's the same reason some men avoid women who explicitly want kids when tey're not ready themselves

I don't agree that a man should have a choice over the abortion but I do believe a man should be able to released from paternal duties if he doesn't want the child.

 

[Stalker]

When you say you'e for equal rights but then say only one side gets to decide on an abortion :ok:

 

[Sparky]

When you say you'e for equal rights but then say only one sorry gets to decide on an abortion :ok:

Wow, what an intelligent counterargument. Dodge the points presented.

 

[Goatson]

@Stalker is rating disagree your only counterargument?

I mean, you shouldn't be having unprotected sex in a one night relationship and then bail out. If the girl is unusually adamant about using no protection, any sensible man should get the hell out of there. For all you know she could be poking holes in the condom even with protection.

Of course but problem is it has and does happen without the man knowing and at thah point they’re screwed, and according toyou they should stay screwed

The problem is there is a huge glorification around single mothers, and a lot of young gals have gotten the idea into their head that shagging a guy just to have kids with him and then telling him to fuck off is a thing many consider and is apparently a-ok and respectable

Which if you ask me, is fucked
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Wow, what an intelligent counterargument. Dodge the points presented.

He has a point though
It’s not equal if only one side has a say in it

 

[Sparky]

Of course but problem is it has and does happen without the man knowing and at thah point they’re screwed, and according toyou they should stay screwed

The problem is there is a huge glorification around single mothers, and a lot of young gals have gotten the idea into their head that shagging a guy just to have kids with him and then telling him to fuck off is a thing many consider

Which if you ask me, is fucked

As @Hayden_ suggested, I think men should be released from parental duties if they wish in the case of unintentional pregnancies, however the choice to terminate or not should, in my opinion, be up to the mother. You act like unintentional pregnancies never have to do with negligence to use protection from the man. Lots of aspiring mothers have nefarious intentions with unprotected sex, not going to deny that.
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He has a point though
It’s not equal if only one side has a say in it

Yeah, which is why I propose various different protections. The whole parental legal system is pretty fucked atm worldwide.

 

[Goatson]

As @Hayden_ suggested, I think men should be released from parental duties if they wish in the case of unintentional pregnancies, however the choice to terminate or not should, in my opinion, be up to the mother. You act like unintentional pregnancies never have to do with negligence to use protection from the man. Lots of aspiring mothers have nefarious intentions with unprotected sex, not going to deny that.

Never said negligence doesn’t play a part
But that doesn’t mean all men should be treated as if they were negligent

 

[Sparky]

Never said negligence doesn’t play a part
But that doesn’t mean all men should be treated as if they were negligent

No I am not saying that. For example, if it was a result of a condom being tampered with then termination should of course be up to the man and woman equally, but if it was blatantly because of using no protection at all then the man was just being plain out negligent.

 

[Deleted member 5658]

No I am not saying that. For example, if it was a result of a condom being tampered with then termination should of course be up to the man and woman equally, but if it was blatantly because of using no protection at all then the man was just being plain out negligent.

Agree with this, but it's so hard to prove as it's he said vs she said

 

[Sil]

woah dont get me involved in this, I don't hate other races.
though I do agree that abortions shouldn't be a universal right. If you don't want a baby then you could maybe, I dunno. Not have sex? even if you're raped its still murder imho

what kind of life is that child going to live

• was created without consent
• born to a mother who wasnt ready to have a child
• will either grow up improperly or with a foster family
• has to deal with the constant torment of knowing its father is a rapist

the list goes on mate

you really rabbit on about topics you wouldnt have the faintest clue about mate no offense

I think an abortion should be the joint choice of the man and the woman who had consensual sex and not just the woman sue me

The woman bears 99% of the burdens of childbirth and pregnancy. I don't think that is fair to require the mans consent.

Yes let's let one person in a consensual relationship decide if a life is worth keeping. I respect your opinion but honestly I am a strong believe that the father has a right to want his child born

Alright, now you don fucked up and went against my wishes for my thread.

 

[Sparky]

Agree with this, but it's so hard to prove as it's he said vs she said

Yeah, hence why I said the whole legal process as a whole is fucked at the moment regarding pregnancies. Both sides need more protections and rights. In the case of condom tampering you can only really hope the male notices during the intercourse and says something right then and there.

 

[P A U L]

but God does

Oh dear....

 

[Sil]

CEASE YOUR DIPSHITTERY AND TAKE IT TO CURRENT AFFAIRS​

 

[Subeh]

CEASE YOUR DIPSHITTERY AND TAKE IT TO CURRENT AFFAIRS​

what did you expect

 

[Sil]

what did you expect

people to take my advice and to talk about animaniac memes.
we were going so well until i decided to fuck it up by bringing benji into this

E: stop this post isn't funny

 

[DoubleD]

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