Serious On Communism.

[Freedom]

you don't know what you're talking about

just saying

Once again, not a counterargument, just an observation.
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i seriously genuinly dont see whats the problem with these comparisons lmfao

IMO, you can compare anyone to hitler.
Like, anyone.
People compare hillary to hitler, trump to hitler, their parents to hitler, etc
everybody is hitler
therefore nobody is hitler

 

[2738647239865]

Once again, not a counterargument, just an observation.

yesssss goysam just give me a free unbarred monopoly on the country's entire economic sector and I'll deal with le evil CABIDALISTS...




visas are open in venezuela btw

 

[Deleted member 305]

IMO, you can compare anyone to hitler.

shit if that's how it works

fuck blackquill you anti semitist piece of fucking shit holy SHIT wtf i thought he loved the israeli people, seems like i was deceived all along wtf??????? i just read in a newspaper that his blood is like what 5% german that must explain all of it, racist, anti-communist man offering valid points and arguements.........

 

[2stronk]

SOCIALISM
Socialism is a way of production different to the capitalist system. In socialism the state controls the means of production, while in capitalism it's directly the people of the state. Why most socialists think this isn't right is because often, people who do nothing get the most profit

you mean CEOs of companies that work tirelessly to build their business with the dream of one day managing it on autopilot so they can retire early? absolute monsters

The reason why these people are usually paid more than tenfold compared to Joe from the production line is simply because the value of any worker is measured by how much money they can generate the company. It literally works just like supply and demand. You cant seriously claim that this is unfair when communist dictators used to sit in huge gold plated palaces while the rest of the population was starving or living in severe poverty

 

[Nömad <3]

I think George Orwell's "1984" needs to be mentioned. Not so much for the oppressive nature or the fight for freedom, bit more so due to what is seen throughout the book.

The ministries at play lie and set massive quotas which are never met. They promote and say "that more products were created this quarter than the last! More furniture! More safety! More hygiene! Better conditions!" Yet, it's shown in different light: Houses are falling apart, cigarettes lack their tobacco, the world becomes bleaker and bleaker as the cities fall apart. Yes, i know it's a work of fiction, but it does hold true as to what happened in the communist nations - that they crumbled economically, despite their governments stating that they were the best and most productive in the world.

 

[Blackquill]

visas are open in venezuela btw

tfw Tim Pool can't go to venezuela or he'll be killed

 

[Kerim]

shit if that's how it works

fuck blackquill you anti semitist piece of fucking shit holy SHIT wtf i thought he loved the israeli people, seems like i was deceived all along wtf??????? i just read in a newspaper that his blood is like what 5% german that must explain all of it, racist, anti-communist man offering valid points and arguements.........

Stfu 45% Austrian smh

 

[2738647239865]

im not an anti semite btw @Lord Gaben can vouch i love the jewish ppl and have nothing against zionism

 

[*honk honk*]

blackquill is worse than hitler if anything

he's responsible for 99.999% of every single server's problems >:(

 

[Deleted member 305]

despite their governments stating that they were the best and most productive in the world.

political indoctorinations are literaly what communists based their power on. why do you think Cheka, NKVD etc. were assembled? whoever ratted out against them got shot or sent away to a "re-education camp with great living conditions" to think about what great crime he has committed. political commissars were there too to secure an "all communist" political scene that played to their political interests.

it was just a big, big fucking theater

 

[Freedom]

you mean CEOs of companies that work tirelessly to build their business with the dream of one day managing it on autopilot so they can retire early? absolute monsters

The reason why these people are usually paid more than tenfold compared to Joe from the production line is simply because the value of any worker is measured by how much money they can generate the company. You cant seriously claim that this is unfair when communist dictators used to sit in huge gold plated palaces

Agreed. We can't look at wealthy businessmen as a cancer on the economy because they aren't by any means. However, steps MUST be taken to ensure those with economic power don't maintain complete power.

I think we can all agree, no matter what economic system starts it -
Capitalism, socialism, communism, social democracy, etc,
Fascism can NEVER come to fruition. Individual rights and liberties can never come second, even if it's for the greater good.

 

[Rabid]

When communist dictators used to sit in huge gold plated palaces

Sign me up

 

[Nömad <3]

Agreed. We can't look at wealthy businessmen as a cancer on the economy because they aren't by any means. However, steps MUST be taken to ensure those with economic power don't maintain complete power.

I think we can all agree, no matter what economic system starts it -
Capitalism, socialism, communism, social democracy, etc,
Fascism can NEVER come to fruition. Individual rights and liberties can never come second, even if it's for the greater good.

BUT THAT'S WHAT COMMUNISM DOES

 

[Blackquill]

Fascism can NEVER come to fruition. Individual rights and liberties can never come second, even if it's for the greater good.

Yeah luckily for us, we have so many checks and balances in place to make sure smth like that doesn't happen

But the label of facist is far too broad, I'd prolly get called a fascist for believing in tight immigration controls these days

 

[Nömad <3]

Yeah luckily for us, we have so many checks and balances in place to make sure smth like that doesn't happen

But the label of facist is far too broad, I'd prolly get called a fascist for believing in tight immigration controls these days

'Labour called they want their equality back'

 

[2738647239865]

Agreed. We can't look at wealthy businessmen as a cancer on the economy because they aren't by any means. However, steps MUST be taken to ensure those with economic power don't maintain complete power.

I think we can all agree, no matter what economic system starts it -
Capitalism, socialism, communism, social democracy, etc,
Fascism can NEVER come to fruition. Individual rights and liberties can never come second, even if it's for the greater good.

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[*honk honk*]

i think i found your dox

i love this boy, he's such a sweetheart

 

[Freedom]

BUT THAT'S WHAT COMMUNISM DOES

Not in every situation. On localized, small scale levels, communism can and has worked.
But, on a large scale, it has yet to be achieved without fascism coming to fruition, so I'm forced to agree with you.

Yeah luckily for us, we have so many checks and balances in place to make sure smth like that doesn't happen

But the label of facist is far too broad, I'd prolly get called a fascist for believing in tight immigration controls these days

That's just a difference in personal opinion. There's a lot of stuff big business is allowed to get away with, and I think the control they have over our politics is a little crazy, but it definitely could be worse.
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i think i found your dox

 

[Kerim]

Alright, you guys want to know why communism doesn't work?

Because it strips away people's own rights. Thousands if not millions of people have died throughout the history under Communist regimes, simply because of their differing political beliefs. The idea of communism and socialism sounds amazing on paper - everyone gets the same shit for the same amount of work, everyone's happy. But let's be honest, this never happens. Equality of result should never equal equality of opportunity - something that capitalism is based on.

Another point that's been raised on this thread is that communism is for the people. At which I can only fucking laugh. If you ever read up on history articles of ANY NON-COMMUNIST SOURCE, you will find that Communist governments have repercussed, reprimanded, silenced and even executed people who even dared to say their own mind which differed with the Communist agenda. And don't tell me that everyone got the same amount of shit (which is the main point of socialism, little did you know.) Neighbours ratted out their neighbours, families ratted out their family members, simply because they wanted to get on the good side of the government to, you guessed it, get political favours and grow influential.

The entire point of communism is not for the people. Its political agenda is focused on sustaining communism. Its economic factor is focused on sustaining communism. Its laws are focused on SUSTAINING COMMUNISM. Fuck off, but I really don't feel like having my rights taken away just because some bearded cunt thought of a fictional universe where everyone is right and dandy. This is the real world, hippies.

 

[Deleted member 305]

On localized, small scale levels

they were pretty small for the damage they caused so i must agree