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Jesus christ, it's like something from a horror movie.​
 

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You're a fan of a mentally ill masochist who heard in his head that he was a female so he cut off his penis and replaced it with a hole and a pair of fake silicone tits, he's not sane.

Well, actually she just took estrogen and testosterone blocking tablets for a few months, grew tits naturally. Still has a dick.

It is our responsibility as healthy individuals to save people who are hurting themselves who promote self-harm to others to stop them and set them back on track and stop this before things will get to the point pedophilla will be legal or zoophilla.

How is medical surgery legally performed by a doctor self-harm? Changing your gender is different to pedophilia and zoophillia because the only thing you're affecting is yourself.

Seriously, half the people in the video don't look human, they look frail and deformed as hell.

That doesn't mean we need to deny them the right to do what they want with their body just because it looks bad/you don't like it.

They've done that to themselves.

So why do you need to care?

It may be a mental disability, but it's not the kind that'd make people a threat to society, or need any kind of rehabilitation. I could easily be transgender, I'm slim with long hair and a firm arse, that doesn't mean I'm mentally disabled if I decide to become a woman. And if it does, it doesn't mean you need to personally intervene with my actions.

As Stalker says:
Live and let live

And the thing that sucks is that a majority will rate me dumb purely because I have a different opinion to the majority, and they won't bother explaining why.
 
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Well, actually she just took estrogen and testosterone blocking tablets for a few months, grew tits naturally. Still has a dick.



How is medical surgery legally performed by a doctor self-harm? Changing your gender is different to pedophilia and zoophillia because the only thing you're affecting is yourself.



That doesn't mean we need to deny them the right to do what they want with their body just because it looks bad/you don't like it.



So why do you need to care?

It may be a mental disability, but it's not the kind that'd make people a threat to society, or need any kind of rehabilitation. I could easily be transgender, I'm slim with long hair and a firm arse, that doesn't mean I'm mentally disabled if I decide to become a woman. And if it does, it doesn't mean you need to personally intervene with my actions.

As Stalker says:


And the thing that sucks is that a majority will rate me dumb purely because I have a different opinion to the majority, and they won't bother explaining why.


I sincerely wish I could rate agree more dude, if I could I would :<
 

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I believe transgenders need help. It's a mental disease, and we've come so far into the PC Era that we've put it under the label of 'acceptance' when it's actually a mental disease where you don't understand what gender you belong to. They need to understand that you are born as what you are. I'm cool with gays and lesbian though.
 
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Well, actually she just took estrogen and testosterone blocking tablets for a few months, grew tits naturally. Still has a dick.



How is medical surgery legally performed by a doctor self-harm? Changing your gender is different to pedophilia and zoophillia because the only thing you're affecting is yourself.



That doesn't mean we need to deny them the right to do what they want with their body just because it looks bad/you don't like it.



So why do you need to care?

It may be a mental disability, but it's not the kind that'd make people a threat to society, or need any kind of rehabilitation. I could easily be transgender, I'm slim with long hair and a firm arse, that doesn't mean I'm mentally disabled if I decide to become a woman. And if it does, it doesn't mean you need to personally intervene with my actions.

As Stalker says:


And the thing that sucks is that a majority will rate me dumb purely because I have a different opinion to the majority, and they won't bother explaining why.

How is it not self-harm? The guy was born a male, from the moment he was a little sperm cell in his mother's womb it was already decided what his gender will be according to the chromosomes and genetics of his parents. What he and other trannies are doing is amputation, they're butchering their own bodies just because they're driven by a mentall illness.

There is no difference from accepting pedophilla or trannies, both do what they think that their brain tells them is right.

There's a list of things a person is permitted to do - being delusional to the point you think you're a member of the opposite gender and actually 'change' your gender shouldn't be allowed as much as suicide isn't allowed.

You are insane if you want to become a woman, you were born a male, your reproductive organs are of a male, your genetics are of a male, your body functions as a male's.
 

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How is it not self-harm? The guy was born a male, from the moment he was a little sperm cell in his mother's womb it was already decided what his gender will be according to the chromosomes and genetics of his parents. What he and other trannies are doing is amputation, they're butchering their own bodies just because they're driven by a mentall illness.

What, in the same way that getting implants is self-harm? No matter what kind of surgery you do, something's gonna get cut open, removed or added.

There is no difference from accepting pedophilla or trannies, both do what they think that their brain tells them is right.

Except trans people are only affecting themselves by changing genders. Pedophiles rape children. There's a difference.

There's a list of things a person is permitted to do - being delusional to the point you think you're a member of the opposite gender and actually 'change' your gender shouldn't be allowed as much as suicide isn't allowed.

Never seen anyone arrested for suicide before.

You are insane if you want to become a woman, you were born a male, your reproductive organs are of a male, your genetics are of a male, your body functions as a male's.

Most sexual-reassignment doctors disagree with you. And that's why it's their job.

Self-Harm is done with intent to damage people. Very few transgenders regret getting their transition. I'm going to quote from Wikipedia now, so you can probably ignore this part.

After sex reassignment surgery, transsexuals (people who underwent cross-sex hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery) tend to be less gender dysphoric. They also normally function well both socially and psychologically. Anxiety, depression and hostility levels were lower after sex reassignment surgery.[27] They also tend to score well for self-perceived mental health, which is independent from sexual satisfaction.[25] Many studies have been carried out to investigate satisfaction levels of patients after sex reassignment surgery. In these studies, most of the patients have reported being very happy with the results and very few of the patients have expressed regret for undergoing sex reassignment surgery.[28]"

You can just say that's all lies and leave it at that.

Except you're suggesting something that's really just the same as banning gay marriage.

There is already counseling and therapy treatments for people that have gender dysphoria, but there is also the option to change your gender if you still believe yourself to be not comfortable with your birth gender. Why do we suddenly need to ban changing gender if you're so sure you're never going to do it, and it's never going to actually affect you? It's ruining other people's beliefs and wishes just because you think it's wrong.
 
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threads like these are never worth making

why sit and argue over this shit for pointless hours at the end of the day let people believe what they want and act how they please

people who come out openly now do it for attention and it's deteriorated into more of a meme then anything in communities such as this
 
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i don't really care lol

to each is own

and lugo, this is different from pedophilia and zoophilia. the aforementioned acts generally cause harm to others and could lead to worse, more violent practices. this is just somebody changing their genitals and taking estrogen/testosterone. while it may cause physical or mental harm to the patient a lot of the time, it's still the patient's choice. it's like abortion. it may seem grotesque or unnecessary to some, but a person's body is a person's body at the end of the day.
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if anybody looked like that, i'd be scared. good god. looks like that thing from pan's labyrinth lmao.
 

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What, in the same way that getting implants is self-harm? No matter what kind of surgery you do, something's gonna get cut open, removed or added.
because non-essential surgery is the same as life saving surgery. Surgery is a last resort because of how risky it can be.

Except trans people are only affecting themselves by changing genders. Pedophiles rape children. There's a difference.
when do we draw the line if society keeps getting more liberal. What's 'normal' now was shunned 100 years ago. And I don't believe they're only affecting themselves, just recently in Canada, new gender-identity Laws were put in place that affect everyone.

Most sexual-reassignment doctors disagree with you. And that's why it's their job.
because there will always be doctors who wouldn't deny a few dozen thousand dollars to cut a dick off and stick silicone in your chest

Except you're suggesting something that's really just the same as banning gay marriage.
because having the right to marry someone of the same sex and giving hormone therapy to underage confused children are the same thing

There is already counseling and therapy treatments for people that have gender dysphoria, but there is also the option to change your gender if you still believe yourself to be not comfortable with your birth gender. Why do we suddenly need to ban changing gender if you're so sure you're never going to do it, and it's never going to actually affect you? It's ruining other people's beliefs and wishes just because you think it's wrong.
If you're a consenting adult, I'm honestly fine if you feel the need to change your gender. It's a free country and money can buy all the surgery you want. BUT do not cram it down healthy people's throats as being the norm or natural. And especially do NOT allow children who don't even know what career they want later in life to undergo extensive surgery and therapy because they feel weird.
 
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because non-essential surgery is the same as life saving surgery. Surgery is a last resort because of how risky it can be.

Treatment for adults

  • mental health support, such as counselling
  • cross-sex hormone treatment (see below)
  • speech and language therapy – to help alter your voice, to sound more typical of your gender identity
  • hair removal treatments, particularly facial hair
  • peer support groups, to meet other people with gender dysphoria
  • relatives' support groups, for your family
The only "Surgery" for gender dysphoria is genital re-shaping, which isn't going to be particularly risky. And you can tell how popular it is when the NHS's official site doesn't even have it listed as a treatment.


when do we draw the line if society keeps getting more liberal. What's 'normal' now was shunned 100 years ago.

100 years ago, women didn't have rights. I'd rather live in a world full of transgenders, interracial and gays than a world where they'd all be sent to jail or outright executed.

because there will always be doctors who wouldn't deny a few dozen thousand dollars to cut a dick off and stick silicone in your chest

And that whole legal obligation thingie.

because having the right to marry someone of the same sex and giving hormone therapy to underage confused children are the same thing

Only counselling is available for children. They're not allowed to actually change their gender.

If you're a consenting adult, I'm honestly fine if you feel the need to change your gender. It's a free country and money can buy all the surgery you want. BUT do not cram it down healthy sane people's throats as being the norm or natural. And especially do NOT allow children who don't even know what career they want later in life to undergo extensive surgery and therapy because they feel weird.

You need to define natural. Is marriage in itself natural? We're the only animals on earth to do it. I doubt porn's very natural, either. I'd rather everyone be fine with transgenders, even if they have that whole "It's weird, but I'm fine with it." mentality. It's better than "It's weird, ban it." And same as above with children. If they do feel like the opposite gender for their entire childhood, it's pretty obvious they're going to change their sex when they hit adulthood. Not much you can do to stop that.
 
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Treatment for adults




    • mental health support, such as counselling
    • cross-sex hormone treatment (see below)
    • speech and language therapy – to help alter your voice, to sound more typical of your gender identity
    • hair removal treatments, particularly facial hair
    • peer support groups, to meet other people with gender dysphoria
    • relatives' support groups, for your family
The only "Surgery" for gender dysphoria is genital re-shaping, which isn't going to be particularly risky. And you can tell how popular it is when the NHS's official site doesn't even have it listed as a treatment.




100 years ago, women didn't have rights. I'd rather live in a world full of transgenders, interracial and gays than a world where they'd all be sent to jail or outright executed.



And that whole legal obligation thingie.



Only counselling is available for children. They're not allowed to actually change their gender.



You need to define natural. Is marriage in itself natural? We're the only animals on earth to do it. I doubt porn's very natural, either. I'd rather everyone be fine with transgenders, even if they have that whole "It's weird, but I'm fine with it." mentality. It's better than "It's weird, ban it." And same as above with children. If they do feel like the opposite gender for their entire childhood, it's pretty obvious they're going to change their sex when they hit adulthood. Not much you can do to stop that.
because non-essential surgery is the same as life saving surgery. Surgery is a last resort because of how risky it can be.


when do we draw the line if society keeps getting more liberal. What's 'normal' now was shunned 100 years ago. And I don't believe they're only affecting themselves, just recently in Canada, new gender-identity Laws were put in place that affect everyone.


because there will always be doctors who wouldn't deny a few dozen thousand dollars to cut a dick off and stick silicone in your chest


because having the right to marry someone of the same sex and giving hormone therapy to underage confused children are the same thing


If you're a consenting adult, I'm honestly fine if you feel the need to change your gender. It's a free country and money can buy all the surgery you want. BUT do not cram it down healthy people's throats as being the norm or natural. And especially do NOT allow children who don't even know what career they want later in life to undergo extensive surgery and therapy because they feel weird.


im sorry but honestly you keep going on with so much content about nothing your opinion honestly matters about
 
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im sorry but honestly you keep going on with so much content about nothing your opinion honestly matters about


I like a good argument.
 

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im sorry but honestly you keep going on with so much content about nothing your opinion honestly matters about

Just having a bit of banter, dude. We KNOW nothing will change, but it doesn't mean we can't talk about it. Nobody is holding a gun to your head either.
 
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