Serious unofficial HL2RP² launch feedback thread

[bilack]

how does gordon use AR2?

and rebels

 

[Erkor]

how does gordon use AR2?

the great power exuding from his person demoralizes the AR2; as a sign of submission, it unlocks

 

[STUCK IN A CAKE]

how does gordon use AR2?

"THE SUIT HACKS IT THE SUIT HACKS IT"


Then you watch jonny bluesuit literally pick up AR2's from dead OTA gordon killed

 

[Erkor]

no but in all seriousness i think the "gordon and rebels loophole" sometimes gets too much attention because you should remember that half life 2 and the episodes came out before half life alyx and the lore regarding gene-coded weaponry definitely was not written 15 years before alyx came out

 

[Trains]

no but in all seriousness i think the "gordon and rebels loophole" sometimes gets too much attention because you should remember that half life 2 and the episodes came out before half life alyx and the lore regarding gene-coded weaponry definitely was not written 15 years before alyx came out

Hmmm An Interesting Theroy I Will E-Mail Mark Laydlaw And Ask Him

 

[Erkor]

Hmmm An Interesting Theroy I Will E-Mail Mark Laydlaw And Ask Him

no... NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Appetite Ruining Kebab]

Hmmm An Interesting Theroy I Will E-Mail Mark Laydlaw And Ask Him

how about you get laidlaw with some bitches (ask them lore questions about hl2rp until they walk away from you)

 

[Kafe]

Only thing thing that bums me out about Asheville and it's just how... limited the city is really.
Lot of potential for interiors and a lot of buildings contextually are setup for it well, shame they're all facade houses.

Shame, as I do like exploring and doing things in the city.

 

[FieldersNL]

Only thing thing that bums me out about Asheville and it's just how... limited the city is really.
Lot of potential for interiors and a lot of buildings contextually are setup for it well, shame they're all facade houses.

Shame, as I do like exploring and doing things in the city.

Hospital area too small aswell

 

[Kafe]

Hospital area too small aswell

I'd have absolutely done a field lab there for the city, but yeah, just a vehicle bay and one waiting room.

 

[Rabid]

Tbh the real reason most rebels didn't have AR2's and shit regularly in HL2 until the Uprising (and beyond) was 90% of the rebels near to the city were refugees or refugee-adjacent helping out in BME. They only ever fought cops, assuming they fought at all, and raided shipments/outposts for cops/city garrisons.

If you're considering defence from wildlife and cops you're not going to lug around a fucking assault rifle you'd have barely any ammo for. You'd use what you have plenty of, y'know?

It isn't until the Coast (which still is mostly refugees for a lot of it) you see mounted guns, and AR2's proper don't happen until the Uprising.

And hell, in Episode 2 you have White Forest rebels teaching city refugees/rebels how to use AR2's because most may not have seen or held them before. Even Alyx had no clue what a Hunter was because she'd never been that far out, whereas WF rebels fought them often enough to value the pulse orb.

 

[Deleted member 374]

marc laidlaw doesn't care if the server is lore accurate.

 

[Blackquill]

marc laidlaw doesn't care if the server is lore accurate.

valve also doesn't care if their games are lore accurate

they typically just make shit up as they go lmaooo

 

[Rabid]

valve also doesn't care if their games are lore accurate

they typically just make shit up as they go lmaooo

"We thought it'd be cool if we made Synths basically 3D printed from templates"

Which flies in the face of OTA lmao

 

[Blackquill]

"We thought it'd be cool if we made Synths basically 3D printed from templates"

Which flies in the face of OTA lmao

Oh yeah I mean Laidlaw's actual writing is great, he obviously knew what he was doing

But a lot of stuff was just added because "it looks cool"

Rule of cool always wins

 

[Cindy]

"We thought it'd be cool if we made Synths basically 3D printed from templates"

Which flies in the face of OTA lmao

Not really. It just means they're fiddling with the (trans)human template before they finalize a perfect copy to mass produce via cloning. It still fits exactly with previously presented material.

 

[Kafe]

Always find it compelling how a big alien empire like that seems incapable of building anything themselves from their own ingenuity.
They always need to transform another organism into a half mechanical weapon, or repurpose designs from existing civilisations.

 

[Erkor]

"We thought it'd be cool if we made Synths basically 3D printed from templates"

Which flies in the face of OTA lmao

We have no idea what the full process for creating a synthetic is, besides scanning and reproducing it. Much like with many other facets of Half-Life 2's lore, we can implant our own interpretations. Transhumanization can simply be a stepping stone process. For all we know, other synths were far more 'simple' in terms of their makeup, whereas humans, being big-brained self-aware creatures, can't just be copied and cloned into synthetic bodies.​

 

[Blackquill]

Not really. It just means they're fiddling with the (trans)human template before they finalize a perfect copy to mass produce via cloning. It still fits exactly with previously presented material.

We have no idea what the full process for creating a synthetic is, besides scanning and reproducing it. Much like with many other facets of Half-Life 2's lore, we can implant our own interpretations. Transhumanization can simply be a stepping stone process. For all we know, other synths were far more 'simple' in terms of their makeup, whereas humans, being big-brained self-aware creatures, can't just be copied and cloned into synthetic bodies.​

The pair of you have put more hours of thought into the nuances of something that is basically never ever talked about in the games then Valve spent making the models for OTA

And that's pretty great, because it shows the source material isn't the be all end all.

 

[Cindy]

Always find it compelling how a big alien empire like that seems incapable of building anything themselves from their own ingenuity.
They always need to transform another organism into a half mechanical weapon, or repurpose designs from existing civilisations.

I think the answer lies somewhere in the fact that some people assume the Combine is an empire of some kind that is traditionally comprehensible to human perspectives. Everything Breen says about the Combine in his speeches and his words to Gordon (as well as Laidlaw's own Breengrub ramblings) suggests that the Combine are not exactly an organization so much as an "entity" of sorts that has assimilated untold quantities of technology and lifeforms.

This is more or less what I've inferred upon the subject:

When comparing the scientific advancements of the Combine and fringe resistance cells such as the laboratory geeks of Black Mesa East, you would notice two key differences: Creativity and resources. The Combine lack creativity, but have the resources (with any technology produced by the resistance to be creative, such as DOG or the Magnusson device, but mostly lacking resources and as such are either few in number or created from scraps.) This is why they assimilate and steal their technology from other species and worlds, because they lack the ingenuity to create something of their own. But do you know who is creative? Humans.

And so now that the Combine are now assimilating the human race into their bosom, you have to take into account the researchers that are now aligned with the Combine (either out of their own volition or duress). The Combine now have both pieces of the puzzle: Creativity and resources. So, what does the Combine make?