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Well that's their fault if they can't restrict their unserious /me's to private places, and it's your job as a staff member to up-hold the rules, Leadcolt is correct in saying that staff need to start being much more strict, as much as the playercount might take a hit, wouldn't it be better for undesirables to leave rather than stay? Weeding out undesirables will leave more room for those who actually want to roleplay?

I'm pretty sure that if the general state of the server takes a turn to a more serious one that a lot of old people would return or more newer people would actually stay. If a new person is greeted with a welcome feeling and gets treated right, he will be more viable to become a permanent member of the community. Even if he seems like an idiot, we all started somewhere with RP.

I can say for myself that I'd probably consider coming back if it would be in a better state than when I left, not that I'm much to look upon though but I'm sure a lot of people share my thought on that as I feel a lot of people were pushed out of the server due to the general growth of unseriousness.

So while it could lead to a, potential, immediate decrease in playerbase, it should grow once again to full numbers. Look at when @Wulfeh was lead, at one point we had a 3 to 1 ratio against the Coalition in terms of players so obviously a serious state doesn't necessarily mean a dead server?

Actually I want to even more comment on this with one thing that Roosebud said.
No, I'm not going to bash Roosebud, I trust Roosebud can fix WW3RP if he tried the solutions given in this thread, and I want to mention that in the past WW3RP has worked with a 60% focus on RP and 40% focus on other aspects of the server. I think people who played before in LP can agree atleast half with this statement that it has been something like this in the past.

The whole point is, WW3RP can work as a concept with focus set on different things, it's just that a lot of things need to start being worked on.

Oh yeah, I forgot to do that in my first post, thanks for reminding me. I honestly think @Roosebud deserves a bit more praise for dealing with all this shit and still seeming to find the middle ground in most cases. I think most of us would've already long left the boat (which we actually did) and let it rot but he's holding on and he's trying to listen to all of us while we come back and share our thoughts.

So, @Roosebud, please take my praise for what it's worth. You're doing good man!
 
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So while it could lead to a, potential, immediate decrease in playerbase, it should grow once again to full numbers. Look at when @Wulfeh was lead, at one point we had a 3 to 1 ratio against the Coalition in terms of players so obviously a serious state doesn't necessarily mean a dead server?
Actually I want to even more comment on this with one thing that Roosebud said.
No, I'm not going to bash Roosebud, I trust Roosebud can fix WW3RP if he tried the solutions given in this thread, and I want to mention that in the past WW3RP has worked with a 60% focus on RP and 40% focus on other aspects of the server. I think people who played before in LP can agree atleast half with this statement that it has been something like this in the past.

The whole point is, WW3RP can work as a concept with focus set on different things, it's just that a lot of things need to start being worked on.
 

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I'm pretty sure that if the general state of the server takes a turn to a more serious one that a lot of old people would return or more newer people would actually stay. If a new person is greeted with a welcome feeling and gets treated right, he will be more viable to become a permanent member of the community. Even if he seems like an idiot, we all started somewhere with RP.

I can say for myself that I'd probably consider coming back if it would be in a better state than when I left, not that I'm much to look upon though but I'm sure a lot of people share my thought on that as I feel a lot of people were pushed out of the server due to the general growth of unseriousness.

So while it could lead to a, potential, immediate decrease in playerbase, it should grow once again to full numbers. Look at when @Wulfeh was lead, at one point we had a 3 to 1 ratio against the Coalition in terms of players so obviously a serious state doesn't necessarily mean a dead server?
Yeah, same.

I left the server after trying to do my personal best to improve the server without success, much like @Leadcolt
When you realize that it's not working it gets pretty demotivating which was one of the reasons I left in the end.

And I would more than gladly return of things started taking a change for the better, especially with the strictness front, to help continue that flow in the right direction.

As of right now though unless a proper line is set in stone of what to do to improve things that is followed, I doubt much will change no matter how much we talk about it.
 

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It's just a shame that the staff roster is so few and far between that there are hardly enough people to administrate, watch situations and enforce the rules. I understand that it can be hard for a staff member at the moment to fulfill the desires of the people in this thread wanting a stricter server to allow more of a leeway for roleplay. The first step is to gain more numbers on the staff roster; then perhaps these reforms and crack down on 'memers' by getting the undesirables off the server can really start to take shape.
 
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Alright, as someone who has been here since the very beginning of the original WW3RP, i'm not going to sit here and tell you WW3 is what it used to be. To the OP though, don't you think it's somewhat hypocritical to talk about how if there's nothing to do try to start up passiveRP, but when nothing was happening you bomb the AP for the Soviets when Roleplay is actually being created but it's just not the type you like?

WW3RP is different now in the sense that instead of RP actively already being established already, it's now the players job to approach someone and begin interacting with the other player. You can look at that in a good or bad way. The idea that @seal has been a bad lead is honestly false as hell because the faction has been increasingly raising it's standards over the time he's been in charge, at least in my opinion. @Shock is an example of great competency, and @harry has been trying his best to make the MP faction just as prominent as it used to be. He's trying to make it like it used to be, where you'd see an MP and actually watch what you're doing. I think I've been doing a good job as well, but that's up to others to decide. The name @Wulfeh has been thrown around a lot in this thread, but I want to remind people that the average Joe disliked him and wanted him gone by the time he willingly left. I can only really think of Robin, Denz, and Oxy that really fucked with him, but, honestly, take my words with a grain of salt because Wulfeh and I have had our fair share of falling outs.

One thing is clear though, whenever a thread like this is made, something needs to change. I personally felt like I was putting in a good amount of effort as a CO and doing a good job. I'll try harder from now on. One thing detestable about these types of threads are all the oldheads who used to play back in the Golden age of WW3 who come back from the dead to rag and shit on the server like they know what's best for it. And you know, you may damn well do know what's best for it. Still, the bottom line is you aren't out here on the server actually trying to change the server for the best like the big game you talk. If you really used to love the server, and speak about how you still do why not get on and try helping out once more? I promise you won't be disappointed this time. I got love for all the OGs here, even those I bucked horns with before. I just feel you should help put in the work you want to see be done.
 
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The name @Wulfeh has been thrown around a lot in this thread, but I want to remind people that the average Joe disliked him and wanted him gone by the time he willingly left. I can only really think of Robin, Denz, and Oxy that really fucked with him, but, honestly, take my words with a grain of salt because Wulfeh and I have had our fair share of falling outs.
The reason the average Joe disliked me was because I didn't cater to their personal needs before anyone else's, it's called prioritization, which Robin astutely mentioned a few posts back.

As for @DanZ , @DenZ and @Oxy[Morons], I can attest that none of them "fucked" with me, they were a huge support both for the faction and myself having people to rely on with perspectives I could draw from rather than simply my own.
 

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The reason the average Joe disliked me was because I didn't cater to their personal needs before anyone else's, it's called prioritization, which Robin astutely mentioned a few posts back.

As for @DanZ , @DenZ and @Oxy[Morons], I can attest that none of them "fucked" with me, they were a huge support both for the faction and myself having people to rely on with perspectives I could draw from rather than simply my own.
Fuck with is a term used for friendly with.
 
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but I want to remind people that the average Joe disliked him and wanted him gone by the time he willingly left.

Actually I kind of want to disagree with this.
No, the average joe did not dislike Wulfeh, I can't remember a time where I had an average joe do complain, who I did hear complain were some of the troublemakers, I don't meant to diss anyone or anything. But mainly people like Gaben, don't get me wrong, I don't mean to insult anyone. Wulfeh was largely hated by those who weren't as serious or didn't like the serious attitude Wulfeh was trying to plant, especially when it was Wulfeh banning people for unserious behaviour, then the person getting unbanned because the person 'did it as a joke'.

As for other terms, I can say that Wulfeh kept people that were helping to keep a serious attitude in the high ranks, not because they were buddy-buddy with him. People might disagree but we can't lie that Wulfeh isn't the sort of person who'd keep a friend in the high ranks just because he's a friend.
 

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lmao the level of edge now on server is so unbelivable that it's hard to chew it up anymore

NATO is basicly busy with randomly torturing pows just bcz reasons with some ultra edgy attitude
Soviets are 100% preoccupied with memes all the time

when you get off hl2rp for a moment to 'roleplay' on this server you basicly get thermal shock.
it's sad, it used to be rp server back at the @Wulfeh times

not to mention 1464534 lesbian edgy overwatch like characters, those grind my gears really hard dudes
 
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Actually I kind of want to disagree with this.
No, the average joe did not dislike Wulfeh, I can't remember a time where I had an average joe do complain, who I did hear complain were some of the troublemakers, I don't meant to diss anyone or anything. But mainly people like Gaben, don't get me wrong, I don't mean to insult anyone. Wulfeh was largely hated by those who weren't as serious or didn't like the serious attitude Wulfeh was trying to plant, especially when it was Wulfeh banning people for unserious behaviour, then the person getting unbanned because the person 'did it as a joke'.

As for other terms, I can say that Wulfeh kept people that were helping to keep a serious attitude in the high ranks, not because they were buddy-buddy with him. People might disagree but we can't lie that Wulfeh isn't the sort of person who'd keep a friend in the high ranks just because he's a friend.
Considering he got abuse reported by one of those 'average joes' for simply having a character in a faction you were a lead of, it really goes to show.

Most flimsy abuse report I've ever seen.
 

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Considering he got abuse reported by one of those 'average joes' for simply having a character in a faction you were a lead of, it really goes to show.

Most flimsy abuse report I've ever seen.
You can also see that Wulfeh was not afraid to place me into positions he deemed appropriate, and while I disagreed with him on those, I do see that he did try to do his best. He put the faction before me or anyone else, and it is also my fault for throwing a wrench in it.(The special forces situation)

Yet another edit:

Wulfeh has asked me quite a few times on my opinion on changes to the faction, he did try to get opinions from others before doing so.
 
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Please don't devolve this to the staff.

Staff have been the issue in the past, yes, but to assume that any problems mean the staff is defunct just eliminates any consideration I would make to a point you made, I don't trust your word from that.

Its typical you would say this Rondal. Considering you're apart of the problem. Your whole track record is one of luck and running of the work of others.

Okay guys. Quick story time.

Rondal was an average player like any. A new player. He started from the bottom like all of us do. I remember the day fondly, we were on rp_fork and @Wulfeh was still the faction leader; we were in teamspeak at the time. One thing lead to another and @Wulfeh brought up faction change for flight faction, or whatever the stupid name was at the time @Wulfeh thought that the flight faction needed drastic change because @Spartan and @WolfSyndrome was not doing what he wanted. So I'm sure you can all guess what happens next? @Rondal jumps at the chance to be the lead of the flight faction for Globalists; @Wulfeh accepts giving @Rondal a nice shiny rank and leader of the faction. Some time passes throughout the day and a couple days latter. Everything looking good, he makes some changes that are a lot better than what the previous people did. Which wasn't too hard because the previous leaders were disinterested and didn't have much time to invest into the faction. And then came the fateful day. @Toasty said "fuck the flight faction, its taking players away that could be used else where. Its a waste of space" So flight for both factions died. @Rondal didn't like this you see. In the WW3 section on the forums he complained about why it should stay, most people didn't want it, some did, it really didn't matter. @Toasty put his foot down and the faction was no more.

Now here is where the story really starts @Wulfeh feels really sorry for @Rondal loosing his faction lead within the span of what was pretty much a week. So What @Wulfeh did was, is give @Rondal a CO rank that was equivalent to his flight faction character. And time went on and @Rondal was seen as a respected member, as pretty much everyone was at the time when you were a CO. Now, I'm not sure if most people remember how it used to work back then -- but being a CO meant you've been there for ages and your character did a lot. Or you as a person were a natural fit and very smart; which would fit in nicely within the faction @Gr4Ss is an example of this with the Coalition.

Eventually this led to @Rondal becoming prime target for a staff rank. @Toasty one day pulled me into a locked TS channel and just said "this guy called Rondal just came out of no where and just made a case for being staff" I pretty much replied "Rondal, is the guy who was kicking up a storm because he disliked you removing flight Toasty." Toasty replied "Oh, well that doesn't really matter to be honest lets give him a chance because for the fun of it and see what he does. If he does stupid shit I'll just remove him" I replied "Fair enough, don't think we should really give him a try when he hasn't been on the server very long but you're right about removing him if does stupid shit."

Now this is where it all started to go crazy. @Toasty allowed @Rondal to be staff -- he started at 'Operator' like pretty much everyone does. @Rondal kept a low profile and pretty much didn't do anything to annoy people and this eventually lead to him being an admin. Now you're all going "how on earth did he get admin if he wasn't terrible?" Well you see... at the time there wasn't really much active admins and the team was pretty much just SAs and a couple of operators doing the work. So to get some people up into the ranks who had more powers and could do some of the jobs the SAs really shouldn't be doing @Rondal was promoted along with some others simply because we NEEDED admins. Can't remember if catastorphe was demoted 'again', to operator at the time, but I'm pretty sure he was made admin 'again', doesn't really matter too much.

More time passed a lot of drama happens as it does on WW3. A lot of autistic screeching in operator chat and what not. Then eventually it led to @Toasty wanting another SA. We didn't really have much candidates for the SA position so you can guess who was selected. Now I'm not sure if I can remember this one-hundred percent correctly -- I think he was considered, but can't remember whether he was actually given it or not.

But I can remember fondly what he tried to do to me. @Rondal tried to lynch me and get my SA and founder rank removed on the server (I was a mini-SD under Toasty for EU time and @Mendel was the one for US time -- that explains why I had founder rank.)

Why would he try to lynch me. Was I a terrible person who was bullying the staff team? Well... some believed that to be so or at least that's what was put into their head. @Rondal formed a lynch squad along with a couple others I won't name, other than @SpaceInvader who was attempted to be used as a tool to remove me. This convo' on the forums had @Blackquill and others in it too. But why exactly did this happen? Its because I caught onto Rondals bullshit and was basically telling the staff team to do their jobs, and train recruits, and not prioritize your time on the server over the players. A lot of people didn't like me telling them to do their job so they followed @Rondal on his crusade to kill the big bad @Samurai that was telling them to work! This of course failed because @Toasty wasn't stupid to their tricks and understood that his staff team was being lazy couch potatoes. So @Toasty denied this 'report' also known as a lynching and all was well for a time.

After than he left me alone and no other attempt was made to remove me by @Rondal or others from within the staff team. TIME SKIP!

@Toasty goes to university. @Daraku and @Kirshbia become SDs. A lot of stuff happens in the brief time we were there under those two. @Rondal gets brought up to be SA to me by @Daraku "I said I'm not too sure about @Rondal to be honest and considering some of stuff he was up to -- @Daraku knew about the attempted lynching at the time and disagreed against it. Also I explained his general track record to this point like I explained above. But we were giving everyone second chances and what not. I relented allowing said change and @Rondal got SA. Nothing good or bad happened under @Rondal in that short time he had it before wanting to go to hl2.

Now here is the real deal breaker that I've only told to a couple of people and most people don't remember but I'm sure @Daraku could if he racked his brain. @Rondal thought it would be funny to nuke the server with his new shiny SA rank before leaving. Destroying everything that we did to prepare that shitty desert urban map that was like half fallout half Star Wars Tatooine. Now I remember @Daraku telling @Blackquill but I don't think much came of it. This might of been because @Daraku was in the process of telling everyone that he wanted to leave LP. But that was it for the tale of @Rondal on WW3. No idea what he was up to on LP with hl2, never really cared to ask. Think he might of came back a couple of times when I left because the server eventually turned to shit in my eyes.

But to sum up this autistic wall of text that can rival President Donald Trumps wall. Is that Rondal has got to where he is today in the community simply through sheer luck and piggy backing of the success of others.

Simple put Rondal you have no idea what you're talking about, keep out.
 
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unseriousness was always a problem but back in LP it was either a) done in small amounts or in private with friends or b) was funny enough where most people just didn't care
 

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Its typical you would say this Rondal. Considering you're apart of the problem. Your whole track record is one of luck and running of the work others.

Okay guys. Quick story time.

Rondal was an average player like any. A new player. He started from the bottom like all of us do. I remember the day fondly, we were on rp_fork and @Wulfeh was still the faction leader; we were in teamspeak at the time. One thing lead to another and @Wulfeh brought up faction change for flight faction, or whatever the stupid name was at the time @Wulfeh thought that the flight faction needed drastic change because @Spartan and @WolfSyndrome was not doing what he wanted. So I'm sure you can all guess what happens next? @Rondal jumps at the chance to be the lead of the flight faction for Globalists; @Wulfeh accepts giving @Rondal a nice shiny rank and leader of the faction. Some time passes throughout the day and a couple days latter. Everything looking good, he makes some changes that are a lot better than what the previous people did. Which wasn't too hard because the previous leaders were disinterested and didn't have much time to invest into the faction. And then came the fateful day. @Toasty said "fuck the flight faction, its taking players away that could be used else where. Its a waste of space" So flight for both factions died. @Rondal didn't like this you see. In the WW3 section on the forums he complained about why it should stay, most people didn't want it, some did, it really didn't matter. @Toasty put his foot down and the faction was no more.

Now here is where the story really starts @Wulfeh feels really sorry for @Rondal loosing his faction lead within the span of what was pretty much a week. So What @Wulfeh did was, is give @Rondal a CO rank that was equivalent to his flight faction character. And time went on and @Rondal was seen as a respected member, as pretty much everyone was at the time when you were a CO. Now, I'm not sure if most people remember how it used to work back then -- but being a CO meant you've been there for ages and your character did a lot. Or you as a person were a natural fit and very smart; which would fit in nicely within the faction @Gr4Ss is an example of this with the Coalition.

Eventually this led to @Rondal becoming prime target for a staff rank. @Toasty one day pulled me into a locked TS channel and just said "this guy called Rondal just came out of no where and just made a case for being staff" I pretty much replied "Rondal, is the guy who was kicking up a storm because he disliked you removing flight Toasty." Toasty replied "Oh, well that doesn't really matter to be honest lets give him a chance because for the fun of it and see what he does. If he does stupid shit I'll just remove him" I replied "Fair enough, don't think we should really give him a try when he hasn't been on the server very long but you're right about removing him if does stupid shit."

Now this is where it all started to go crazy. @Toasty allowed @Rondal to be staff -- he started at 'Operator' like pretty much everyone does. @Rondal kept a low profile and pretty much didn't do anything to annoy people and this eventually lead to him being an admin. Now you're all going "how on earth did he get admin if he wasn't terrible?" Well you see... at the time there wasn't really much active admins and the team was pretty much just SAs and a couple of operators doing the work. So to get some people up into the ranks who had more powers and could do some of the jobs the SAs really shouldn't be doing @Rondal was promoted along with some others simply because we NEEDED admins. Can't remember if catastorphe was demoted 'again', to operator at the time, but I'm pretty sure he was made admin 'again', doesn't really matter too much.

More time passed a lot of drama happens as it does on WW3. A lot of autistic screeching in operator chat and what not. Then eventually it led to @Toasty wanting another SA. We didn't really have much candidates for the SA position so you can guess who was selected. Now I'm not sure if I can remember this one-hundred percent correctly -- I think he was considered, but can't remember whether he was actually given it or not.

But I can remember fondly what he tried to do to me. @Rondal tried to lynch me and get my SA and founder rank removed on the server (I was a mini-SD under Toasty for EU time and @Mendel was the one for US time -- that explains why I had founder rank.)

Why would he try to lynch me. Was I a terrible person who was bullying the staff team? Well... some believed that to be so or at least that's what was put into their head. @Rondal formed a lynch squad along with a couple others I won't name, other than @SpaceInvader who was attempted to be used as a tool to remove me. This convo' on the forums had @Blackquill and others in it too. But why exactly did this happen? Its because I caught onto Rondals bullshit and was basically telling the staff team to do their jobs, and train recruits, and not prioritize your time on the server over the players. A lot of people didn't like me telling them to do their job so they followed @Rondal on his crusade to kill the big bad @Samurai that was telling them to work! This of course failed because @Toasty wasn't stupid to their tricks and understood that his staff team was being lazy couch potatoes. So @Toasty denied this 'report' also known as a lynching and all was well for a time.

After than he left me alone and no other attempt was made to remove me by @Rondal or others from within the staff team. TIME SKIP!

@Toasty goes to university. @Daraku and @Kirshbia become SDs. A lot of stuff happens in the brief time we were there under those two. @Rondal gets brought up to be SA to me by @Daraku "I said I'm not too sure about @Rondal to be honest and considering some of stuff he was up to -- @Daraku knew about the attempted lynching at the time and disagreed against it. Also I explained his general track record to this point like I explained above. But we were giving everyone second chances and what not. I relented allowing said change and @Rondal got SA. Nothing good or bad happened under @Rondal in that short time he had it before wanting to go to hl2.

Now here is the real deal breaker that I've only told to a couple of people and most people don't remember but I'm sure @Daraku could if he racked his brain. @Rondal thought it would be funny to nuke the server with his new shiny SA rank before leaving. Destroying everything that we did to prepare that shitty desert urban map that was like half fallout half Star Wars Tatooine. Now I remember @Daraku telling @Blackquill but I don't think much came of it. This might of been because @Daraku was in the process of telling everyone that he wanted to leave LP. But that was it for the tale of @Rondal on WW3. No idea what he was up to on LP with hl2, never really cared to ask. Think he might of came back a couple of times when I left because the server eventually turned to shit in my eyes.

But to sum up this autistic wall of text that can rival President Donald Trumps wall. Is that Rondal has got to where he is today in the community simply through sheer luck and piggy backing of the success of others.

Simple put Rondal you have no idea what you're talking about, keep out.
You're describing two years as if that same person still sticks around now, which doesn't.

I don't think its very appropriate to bring up the past in this sense (in referrance to the lynch mob, which I did create out of lack of knowledge at the time - my fault) but you hold all right to do so. Yes, I did nuke the map at the end and I certainly wouldn't do it again, I destroyed a lot of shit and really was an asshole because of the quick rise I got to power over that time.

But, you fail to mention the time between the resurface of WW3RP and now. I wouldn't go out of my way to say I'm a completely different person, some of my old attributes I carried around when I went by my naive mistakes are still very much prevalent, but I have improved from my old mistakes and things are very different from how they used to be.

The short for me to this is, I agree, but my actions in the past hold no relevance to my opinion now, considering the past is over a year ago. I now have an active position in helping the server.
 

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thought it would be funny to nuke the server with his new shiny SA rank
I can't remember 100% but if this is referring to the preparation of the event map, wasn't it catastrophe maker (Ironic name) who nuked the place and made all the props fly away, unless this is a different situation.
 

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I can't remember 100% but if this is referring to the preparation of the event map, wasn't it catastrophe maker (Ironic name) who nuked the place and made all the props fly away, unless this is a different situation.
I did nuke, but it wasnt during set up.
 

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Its typical you would say this Rondal. Considering you're apart of the problem. Your whole track record is one of luck and running of the work others.

Okay guys. Quick story time.

Rondal was an average player like any. A new player. He started from the bottom like all of us do. I remember the day fondly, we were on rp_fork and @Wulfeh was still the faction leader; we were in teamspeak at the time. One thing lead to another and @Wulfeh brought up faction change for flight faction, or whatever the stupid name was at the time @Wulfeh thought that the flight faction needed drastic change because @Spartan and @WolfSyndrome was not doing what he wanted. So I'm sure you can all guess what happens next? @Rondal jumps at the chance to be the lead of the flight faction for Globalists; @Wulfeh accepts giving @Rondal a nice shiny rank and leader of the faction. Some time passes throughout the day and a couple days latter. Everything looking good, he makes some changes that are a lot better than what the previous people did. Which wasn't too hard because the previous leaders were disinterested and didn't have much time to invest into the faction. And then came the fateful day. @Toasty said "fuck the flight faction, its taking players away that could be used else where. Its a waste of space" So flight for both factions died. @Rondal didn't like this you see. In the WW3 section on the forums he complained about why it should stay, most people didn't want it, some did, it really didn't matter. @Toasty put his foot down and the faction was no more.

Now here is where the story really starts @Wulfeh feels really sorry for @Rondal loosing his faction lead within the span of what was pretty much a week. So What @Wulfeh did was, is give @Rondal a CO rank that was equivalent to his flight faction character. And time went on and @Rondal was seen as a respected member, as pretty much everyone was at the time when you were a CO. Now, I'm not sure if most people remember how it used to work back then -- but being a CO meant you've been there for ages and your character did a lot. Or you as a person were a natural fit and very smart; which would fit in nicely within the faction @Gr4Ss is an example of this with the Coalition.

Eventually this led to @Rondal becoming prime target for a staff rank. @Toasty one day pulled me into a locked TS channel and just said "this guy called Rondal just came out of no where and just made a case for being staff" I pretty much replied "Rondal, is the guy who was kicking up a storm because he disliked you removing flight Toasty." Toasty replied "Oh, well that doesn't really matter to be honest lets give him a chance because for the fun of it and see what he does. If he does stupid shit I'll just remove him" I replied "Fair enough, don't think we should really give him a try when he hasn't been on the server very long but you're right about removing him if does stupid shit."

Now this is where it all started to go crazy. @Toasty allowed @Rondal to be staff -- he started at 'Operator' like pretty much everyone does. @Rondal kept a low profile and pretty much didn't do anything to annoy people and this eventually lead to him being an admin. Now you're all going "how on earth did he get admin if he wasn't terrible?" Well you see... at the time there wasn't really much active admins and the team was pretty much just SAs and a couple of operators doing the work. So to get some people up into the ranks who had more powers and could do some of the jobs the SAs really shouldn't be doing @Rondal was promoted along with some others simply because we NEEDED admins. Can't remember if catastorphe was demoted 'again', to operator at the time, but I'm pretty sure he was made admin 'again', doesn't really matter too much.

More time passed a lot of drama happens as it does on WW3. A lot of autistic screeching in operator chat and what not. Then eventually it led to @Toasty wanting another SA. We didn't really have much candidates for the SA position so you can guess who was selected. Now I'm not sure if I can remember this one-hundred percent correctly -- I think he was considered, but can't remember whether he was actually given it or not.

But I can remember fondly what he tried to do to me. @Rondal tried to lynch me and get my SA and founder rank removed on the server (I was a mini-SD under Toasty for EU time and @Mendel was the one for US time -- that explains why I had founder rank.)

Why would he try to lynch me. Was I a terrible person who was bullying the staff team? Well... some believed that to be so or at least that's what was put into their head. @Rondal formed a lynch squad along with a couple others I won't name, other than @SpaceInvader who was attempted to be used as a tool to remove me. This convo' on the forums had @Blackquill and others in it too. But why exactly did this happen? Its because I caught onto Rondals bullshit and was basically telling the staff team to do their jobs, and train recruits, and not prioritize your time on the server over the players. A lot of people didn't like me telling them to do their job so they followed @Rondal on his crusade to kill the big bad @Samurai that was telling them to work! This of course failed because @Toasty wasn't stupid to their tricks and understood that his staff team was being lazy couch potatoes. So @Toasty denied this 'report' also known as a lynching and all was well for a time.

After than he left me alone and no other attempt was made to remove me by @Rondal or others from within the staff team. TIME SKIP!

@Toasty goes to university. @Daraku and @Kirshbia become SDs. A lot of stuff happens in the brief time we were there under those two. @Rondal gets brought up to be SA to me by @Daraku "I said I'm not too sure about @Rondal to be honest and considering some of stuff he was up to -- @Daraku knew about the attempted lynching at the time and disagreed against it. Also I explained his general track record to this point like I explained above. But we were giving everyone second chances and what not. I relented allowing said change and @Rondal got SA. Nothing good or bad happened under @Rondal in that short time he had it before wanting to go to hl2.

Now here is the real deal breaker that I've only told to a couple of people and most people don't remember but I'm sure @Daraku could if he racked his brain. @Rondal thought it would be funny to nuke the server with his new shiny SA rank before leaving. Destroying everything that we did to prepare that shitty desert urban map that was like half fallout half Star Wars Tatooine. Now I remember @Daraku telling @Blackquill but I don't think much came of it. This might of been because @Daraku was in the process of telling everyone that he wanted to leave LP. But that was it for the tale of @Rondal on WW3. No idea what he was up to on LP with hl2, never really cared to ask. Think he might of came back a couple of times when I left because the server eventually turned to shit in my eyes.

But to sum up this autistic wall of text that can rival President Donald Trumps wall. Is that Rondal has got to where he is today in the community simply through sheer luck and piggy backing of the success of others.

Simple put Rondal you have no idea what you're talking about, keep out.
People change, Rondal has too. He's currently a great asset to NATO and is consistently helping. His input is relevant, he plays on the server daily.
 

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I'm pretty sure that if the general state of the server takes a turn to a more serious one that a lot of old people would return or more newer people would actually stay.
WW3RP started losing its essence when all the old people started leaving, it wasn't that it changed and then they left.
The server has simply shape-shifted and catered towards the crowd it had.

Its typical you would say this Rondal. Considering you're apart of the problem. Your whole track record is one of luck and running of the work others.

Okay guys. Quick story time.

Rondal was an average player like any. A new player. He started from the bottom like all of us do. I remember the day fondly, we were on rp_fork and @Wulfeh was still the faction leader; we were in teamspeak at the time. One thing lead to another and @Wulfeh brought up faction change for flight faction, or whatever the stupid name was at the time @Wulfeh thought that the flight faction needed drastic change because @Spartan and @WolfSyndrome was not doing what he wanted. So I'm sure you can all guess what happens next? @Rondal jumps at the chance to be the lead of the flight faction for Globalists; @Wulfeh accepts giving @Rondal a nice shiny rank and leader of the faction. Some time passes throughout the day and a couple days latter. Everything looking good, he makes some changes that are a lot better than what the previous people did. Which wasn't too hard because the previous leaders were disinterested and didn't have much time to invest into the faction. And then came the fateful day. @Toasty said "fuck the flight faction, its taking players away that could be used else where. Its a waste of space" So flight for both factions died. @Rondal didn't like this you see. In the WW3 section on the forums he complained about why it should stay, most people didn't want it, some did, it really didn't matter. @Toasty put his foot down and the faction was no more.

Now here is where the story really starts @Wulfeh feels really sorry for @Rondal loosing his faction lead within the span of what was pretty much a week. So What @Wulfeh did was, is give @Rondal a CO rank that was equivalent to his flight faction character. And time went on and @Rondal was seen as a respected member, as pretty much everyone was at the time when you were a CO. Now, I'm not sure if most people remember how it used to work back then -- but being a CO meant you've been there for ages and your character did a lot. Or you as a person were a natural fit and very smart; which would fit in nicely within the faction @Gr4Ss is an example of this with the Coalition.

Eventually this led to @Rondal becoming prime target for a staff rank. @Toasty one day pulled me into a locked TS channel and just said "this guy called Rondal just came out of no where and just made a case for being staff" I pretty much replied "Rondal, is the guy who was kicking up a storm because he disliked you removing flight Toasty." Toasty replied "Oh, well that doesn't really matter to be honest lets give him a chance because for the fun of it and see what he does. If he does stupid shit I'll just remove him" I replied "Fair enough, don't think we should really give him a try when he hasn't been on the server very long but you're right about removing him if does stupid shit."

Now this is where it all started to go crazy. @Toasty allowed @Rondal to be staff -- he started at 'Operator' like pretty much everyone does. @Rondal kept a low profile and pretty much didn't do anything to annoy people and this eventually lead to him being an admin. Now you're all going "how on earth did he get admin if he wasn't terrible?" Well you see... at the time there wasn't really much active admins and the team was pretty much just SAs and a couple of operators doing the work. So to get some people up into the ranks who had more powers and could do some of the jobs the SAs really shouldn't be doing @Rondal was promoted along with some others simply because we NEEDED admins. Can't remember if catastorphe was demoted 'again', to operator at the time, but I'm pretty sure he was made admin 'again', doesn't really matter too much.

More time passed a lot of drama happens as it does on WW3. A lot of autistic screeching in operator chat and what not. Then eventually it led to @Toasty wanting another SA. We didn't really have much candidates for the SA position so you can guess who was selected. Now I'm not sure if I can remember this one-hundred percent correctly -- I think he was considered, but can't remember whether he was actually given it or not.

But I can remember fondly what he tried to do to me. @Rondal tried to lynch me and get my SA and founder rank removed on the server (I was a mini-SD under Toasty for EU time and @Mendel was the one for US time -- that explains why I had founder rank.)

Why would he try to lynch me. Was I a terrible person who was bullying the staff team? Well... some believed that to be so or at least that's what was put into their head. @Rondal formed a lynch squad along with a couple others I won't name, other than @SpaceInvader who was attempted to be used as a tool to remove me. This convo' on the forums had @Blackquill and others in it too. But why exactly did this happen? Its because I caught onto Rondals bullshit and was basically telling the staff team to do their jobs, and train recruits, and not prioritize your time on the server over the players. A lot of people didn't like me telling them to do their job so they followed @Rondal on his crusade to kill the big bad @Samurai that was telling them to work! This of course failed because @Toasty wasn't stupid to their tricks and understood that his staff team was being lazy couch potatoes. So @Toasty denied this 'report' also known as a lynching and all was well for a time.

After than he left me alone and no other attempt was made to remove me by @Rondal or others from within the staff team. TIME SKIP!

@Toasty goes to university. @Daraku and @Kirshbia become SDs. A lot of stuff happens in the brief time we were there under those two. @Rondal gets brought up to be SA to me by @Daraku "I said I'm not too sure about @Rondal to be honest and considering some of stuff he was up to -- @Daraku knew about the attempted lynching at the time and disagreed against it. Also I explained his general track record to this point like I explained above. But we were giving everyone second chances and what not. I relented allowing said change and @Rondal got SA. Nothing good or bad happened under @Rondal in that short time he had it before wanting to go to hl2.

Now here is the real deal breaker that I've only told to a couple of people and most people don't remember but I'm sure @Daraku could if he racked his brain. @Rondal thought it would be funny to nuke the server with his new shiny SA rank before leaving. Destroying everything that we did to prepare that shitty desert urban map that was like half fallout half Star Wars Tatooine. Now I remember @Daraku telling @Blackquill but I don't think much came of it. This might of been because @Daraku was in the process of telling everyone that he wanted to leave LP. But that was it for the tale of @Rondal on WW3. No idea what he was up to on LP with hl2, never really cared to ask. Think he might of came back a couple of times when I left because the server eventually turned to shit in my eyes.

But to sum up this autistic wall of text that can rival President Donald Trumps wall. Is that Rondal has got to where he is today in the community simply through sheer luck and piggy backing of the success of others.

Simple put Rondal you have no idea what you're talking about, keep out.
What the hell is the point of this and how is this relevant at all? Other then being an asshole, that is.
 
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