Serious On Communism.

[Megafreak]

@Blackquill

Pardon my wrong use of words, I indeed intended to say unrealistic so thank you on the correction.



"As much as I heavily disagree with the ideology itself- I feel like more could actually be done by everyone, not just those who are 'qualified' to do things."

I understood that by "everyone" you meant literally anyone, like the lower-mid-class, which I wanted to point out should first develop themselves in order to bring more benefit. However, I want to make it clear, I'm not against donation by the lower class nonetheless. Whilst they're on their way to higher ends, they can donate, but so much till it begins interfering with progress.

And yeah, I was speaking of the first to second world countries. Anywhere else it's every man for... every other man.


I've got an even better old story for your side. I like it more, personally, up to the point where I ask myself:What does the boy do when he grows up? Will he be still on that same beach, throwing back a star-fish at a time? Or will he become a strong figure that prevents starfish from coming onto the shore in the first place.

My point is don't stop throwing the starfish. If you can stop more washing up later that's a bonus but you shouldn't stop helping just in the promise of helping later on. That costs you a part of your morality. Never stop making a difference because the moment you stop to only focus on yourself you can't get back the morality you threw away. Passing a starving guy on the street and saying "Hey sorry bucko, catch me in 30 years and I'll give 50000 people food!" doesn't help him and leaving people without help is wrong imo.

I live in a developed country and I see people living on the streets in city centers. People from this country who have learned, lived and worked their entire lives here, some even ex-forces who have put their lives on the line for our safety and freedom and people who can help just walk by each day. That is fucked up no matter what you believe in.

 

[TarzanTheJungler]

My point is don't stop throwing the starfish. If you can stop more washing up later that's a bonus but you shouldn't stop helping just in the promise of helping later on.

Refer to: "... However, I want to make it clear, I'm not against donation by the lower class nonetheless. Whilst they're on their way to higher ends, they can donate, but so much till it begins interfering with progress."

I live in a developed country and I see people living on the streets in city centers. People from this country who have learned, lived and worked their entire lives here, some even ex-forces who have put their lives on the line for our safety and freedom and people who can help just walk by each day. That is fucked up no matter what you believe in.

^this and moreover on the morality:

That's the problem, they never wanted to actually help from the start.
By developing, I don't mean "Be an emotionless hell incarnate", I mean: Work so you could give back to the community. For anything else, once more refer to my quote above.

 

[2738647239865]

if everybody 'should help eachother out' let them do it themselves instead of compulsing them with the threat of fucking arrest

 

[Gimmie]

Despite how rude you are, I can approve that its even worse. Fascist politicians, "Captain" Danko who has never served in the military yet he takes that rank as if nothing happened. Our politicans really are a crazy bunch. Some days I wonder how could such a country hard fought for end up like this. Your post only shows how strongly youre affected by all the propaganda and talks of people, though.
EDIT: Actually if you never heard of the never-ending law that even a president can go to jail here, not like Netherlands, then you should go and criticise your country for it if youre able to open your rude mouth upon something you dont even know about.

we dont have a president.

and i wasnt being rude, i was being honest and as you describe it, i wasnt wrong.

 

[Edgelord Freeman]

we dont have a president.

and i wasnt being rude, i was being honest and as you describe it, i wasnt wrong.

Of course you were only being honest now
EDIT: despite, being honest doesnt mean you arent being rude, i could honestly tell someone hes an asshole and it would still be rude. Also, how can you be honest about a country you have mistaken with Russia and basically that you dont know anything about?

 

[PADEX]

The reason why a lot of people have this idea of "The Communism is bad" is because every nation which had this model of society has always had a totalitarian government. One clear example is China nowadays or the Soviet Union back in the last century. These nations claim that they follow Communism ideals, using that term as an excuse, a some sort of mask to hide the fact that they're not following them at all.

Communism expects every citizen to be equal to the others, but the only equality that is present is how poor the citizens are, apart from who is part of the government.


Another thing I want to say is that Communism puts everyone at the same level, but not only about rights, also about everything else.

Let me explain: according to communism ideals, since all people are equal, a Janitor can have the same salary of a lawyer (for example and if money aren't removed completely) or vice versa.

In my opinion (and it's the opinion of the majority of the people in this world i think) this method is not right. Every person is different: there are some people more clever than others, some people have more skills than others, some people put more effort on their tasks than others. If we put everyone at the same level, then it's not fair for those who really care about their job since there are others who would do absolutely nothing and receive the same rewards.

Here's another example: every person has equal rights and everyone has their rights to receive a sufficient amount of food everyday. Let's say that 10 people gets at least one loaf of bread everyday. One day though there's only one loaf of bread available, so only one person can get it.
Result ---> everyone of these 10 people will say "i have the right to get this bread so it's mine" -----> the 10 people will fight eachother for getting the food

This proves how every attempt to apply Communism on a country will result in a total failure along with a 100% chance of causing anarchy and internal wars.

P.S. sorry if my english might not be perfect, i hope you understand what i said >.< i will correct eventual grammar mistakes/typos

 

[All Adm*ns are Bastards]

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[Gimmie]

Of course you were only being honest now
EDIT: despite, being honest doesnt mean you arent being rude, i could honestly tell someone hes an asshole and it would still be rude. Also, how can you be honest about a country you have mistaken with Russia and basically that you dont know anything about?

https://www.iamat.org/country/slovakia/risk/air-pollution
lmao wtf is this vid


eastern european countries, quite franctly, arent very different except the name they share in political corruption, air pollution as described by the link, social development.

 

[SoVastEndNow]

communism was created by long nosed individuals

 

[Johnny B. Goode]

 

[Edgelord Freeman]

The reason why a lot of people have this idea of "The Communism is bad" is because every nation which had this model of society has always had a totalitarian government. One clear example is China nowadays or the Soviet Union back in the last century. These nations claim that they follow Communism ideals, using that term as an excuse, a some sort of mask to hide the fact that they're not following them at all.

Communism expects every citizen to be equal to the others, but the only equality that is present is how poor the citizens are, apart from who is part of the government.


Another thing I want to say is that Communism puts everyone at the same level, but not only about rights, also about everything else.

Let me explain: according to communism ideals, since all people are equal, a Janitor can have the same salary of a lawyer (for example and if money aren't removed completely) or vice versa.

In my opinion (and it's the opinion of the majority of the people in this world i think) this method is not right. Every person is different: there are some people more clever than others, some people have more skills than others, some people put more effort on their tasks than others. If we put everyone at the same level, then it's not fair for those who really care about their job since there are others who would do absolutely nothing and receive the same rewards.

Here's another example: every person has equal rights and everyone has their rights to receive a sufficient amount of food everyday. Let's say that 10 people gets at least one loaf of bread everyday. One day though there's only one loaf of bread available, so only one person can get it.
Result ---> everyone of these 10 people will say "i have the right to get this bread so it's mine" -----> the 10 people will fight eachother for getting the food

This proves how every attempt to apply Communism on a country will result in a total failure along with a 100% chance of causing anarchy and internal wars.

P.S. sorry if my english might not be perfect, i hope you understand what i said >.< i will correct eventual grammar mistakes/typos

The pays of this job and that job do differ on the importance, and first of all janitors most likely wouldnt even be a thing and instead the workers of the place would clean up their mess.
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https://www.iamat.org/country/slovakia/risk/air-pollution
lmao wtf is this vid


eastern european countries, quite franctly, arent very different except the name they share in political corruption, air pollution as described by the link, social development.

I would really like to see the video and compare it with my experience but thats going to happen tommorow once i get home since im using simple mobile internet now.
EDIT: I dont give a shit what they say, Im still alive and other people are, too. Plus I doubt its any worse than other countries with the air, think Japan, America, Britain especially in the old days.

 

[PADEX]

The pays of this job and that job do differ on the importance, and first of all janitors most likely wouldnt even be a thing and instead the workers of the place would clean up their mess.

it was just an example

 

[Edgelord Freeman]

it was just an example

While I agree with why many people think its bad, I dont get the meaning of that example since its ridiculous and most likely never was a thing.

 

[Trenchyn the Infinite]

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[All Adm*ns are Bastards]

Do I want to be a Communist role-player, or a Tory role-player? A question that keeps many awake at night.

 

[Roby]

There's a reason the 'Stab in the back' "myth" exists. Not to mention the german hatred for jew bolsheviks was well enough justified.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19

The commies, which at the leadership stood 80-90% ethnic jews, were responsable for the dissolution of german monarchy and severely undermined the german war effort which culminated with their loss in WW1, despite nobody invading Germany.

 

[bird]

There's a reason the 'Stab in the back' "myth" exists. Not to mention the german hatred for jew bolsheviks was well enough justified.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19

The commies, which at the leadership stood 80-90% ethnic jews, were responsable for the dissolution of german monarchy and severely undermined the german war effort which culminated with their loss in WW1, despite nobody invading Germany.

Do you actually have statistics on the amount of Jews in the left wing 'undermining' revolutionary groups?
I'd like to see those, given that the driving force in the Revolution was democratic revolutionary uprisings and military desertion in support of a republic, which, bare in mind, almost annihilated German bolshevism shortly thereafter.

 

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[PilotBland]

truth

b-but that's not real communism/socialism -- we'll do it right this time!

 

[Roby]

Do you actually have statistics on the amount of Jews in the left wing 'undermining' revolutionary groups?
I'd like to see those, given that the driving force in the Revolution was democratic revolutionary uprisings and military desertion in support of a republic, which, bare in mind, almost annihilated German bolshevism shortly thereafter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Luxemburg
Leader of the communist revolution in Germany, 1918, below are some of her colleagues

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Eisner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Levi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Toller

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Mühsam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Landauer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Leviné

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Lenin himself (half jew, half tatar)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin

Speaks for itself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx

Bolshevik who advocated the spread of the red pleague on an international level
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky

Bolshevik party member
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Sverdlov

Brother in law of trotsky, another bolshevik politician
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lev_Kamenev

Bolshevik politician and one of the responsable people for the red terror in crimea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosalia_Zemlyachka

Hungarian half jew responsable for an attempt to establish a communist hungarian government, which was defeated by an invading romanian army in 1919
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Béla_Kun

Bolshevik revolutionary leader
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moisei_Uritsky

Another bolshevik revolutionary leader
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Sokolnikov

And another bolshevik revolutionary and politician
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigory_Zinoviev

NKVD director
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genrikh_Yagoda

Communist terrorist that detonated a bomb in the Romanian parliament, 1920
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Goldstein

Goldstein's colleague in the bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Lichtblau

This list is just a small one, everyone I listed is either full blooded jew or half-jew at best. I can't bother myself to list entire pages of jew bolsheviks and dissidents, you can google the information yourself.