Serious Went to a Jordan Peterson talk

[Blackquill]

None of this makes him smarter then me.

Yeah it does

You only think he's dumb because he doesn't like communism or marxism. Not liking ideas doesn't mean you're not intelligent. If you ask me, you're the brainlet tbh

 

[Deadpool]

I, too, hate people based on the fact if they eat meat or not. Thanks Husky. He's a psychology professor who writes books, and videos of his interviews/talks are popular on YouTube, I don't see much more to it.

 

[Husky]

The guys a brainlet who just says "THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT!" Whenever he gets criticism for his shit ideas.
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Yeah it does

You only think he's dumb because he doesn't like communism or marxism. Not liking ideas doesn't mean you're not intelligent. If you ask me, you're the brainlet tbh

No he's dumb because he's enabling neo-nazis and giving gullible people scurvy.

 

[Blackquill]

The guys a brainlet who just says "THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT!" Whenever he gets criticism for his shit ideas.

There's another huskyism - posting biased youtube videos. Btw, being wrong about one thing- doesn't make you a brainlet. You should know that, mister 'i'm smart honest'

And you do the same shit when your crappy ideas get criticised

No he's dumb because he's enabling neo-nazis and giving gullible people scurvy.

"anyone i don't like enables neo-nazis!!!!"

Grow the fuck up

 

[Deadpool]

There's another huskyism - posting biased youtube videos

And you do the same shit when your crappy ideas get criticised


"anyone i don't like enables neo-nazis!!!!"

Grow the fuck up

afaik this peterson guy is as much anti-communism as he is anti-nazism so idk where husky's getting at

 

[Blackquill]

afaik this peterson guy is as much anti-communism as he is anti-nazism so idk where husky's getting at

Because opposing communism = enabling neo-nazism

 

[Ond]

The guys a brainlet who just says "THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT!" Whenever he gets criticism for his shit ideas.
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No he's dumb because he's enabling neo-nazis and giving gullible people scurvy.

You must have established quite a library on the taste of windows

The guy should stay out of politics, sure, but some of his psychology based theories are really interesting

 

[Husky]

You must have established quite a library on the taste of windows

The guy should stay out of politics, sure, but some of his psychology based theories are really interesting

such as?

 

[Ond]

such as?

an antidote for chaos contains some good stuff about ethics, though it can be abstract

 

[Husky]

an antidote for chaos contains some good stuff about ethics, though it can be abstract

Not really, it's just a rehash of decade old psychological theories, like keeping your room clean isn't exactly revolutionary nor is petting cats.

And there's a passage in the book where he goes into great detail about how much he wanted to beat up a child, which is... Odd, to say the least.

 

[Ond]

Not really, it's just a rehash of decade old psychological theories, like keeping your room clean isn't exactly revolutionary nor is petting cats.

And there's a passage in the book where he goes into great detail about how much he wanted to beat up a child, which is... Odd, to say the least.

social heritage typically causes behavior like that, which is great because he doesn't just rehash some theory he also is a walking example of it

 

[Husky]

social heritage typically causes behavior like that, which is great because he doesn't just rehash some theory he also is a walking example of it

Can you explain further?

 

[Ond]

Can you explain further?

if x parent does y thing then child is also likely to do y thing

if x parent beats their child then child is also likely to do the same/have reoccurring thoughts about it, they can however just have less tolerance when it comes to dealing with children in their adult life

if x parent smokes, their child is also likely to do the same/have reoccurring thoughts about it/become addicted in their adult life

it might be called something other than social heritage in english but we weren't taught in english so forgive if it isn't called that

 

[Goatson]

The guys not a good psychologist or a good anything really. The guys a brainlet who thinks gommermism is evil vuvuzulu 100 gorrillion dead, thinks the nazis were just evil and gives reasoning for it that gives holocaust deniers a good basis for their arguments which is why he's attracted a huge Nazi following. Not to mention the fact that he refuses to eat anything other then meat for some bullshit reason that makes no sense and the fact that he thinks women's natural place is in the kitchen or that gay people can't have functioning families.

Are you actually retarded?
Like i dont like the guy because he adds religion into the mix but you must hve not listened to a word he has said if that is the image you have of him lmao

 

[Husky]

if x parent does y thing then child is also likely to do y thing

if x parent beats their child then child is also likely to do the same/have reoccurring thoughts about it, they can however just have less tolerance when it comes to dealing with children

if x parent smokes, their child is also likely to do the same/have reoccurring thoughts about it/become addicted

it might be called something other than social heritage in english but we weren't taught in english so forgive if it isn't called that

That still doesn't justify the behaviour though, but I understand where you're coming from and I kinda reject them, the youth and elderly are becoming increasingly polarised in several fields such as sexuality and political leanings compared with previous generation of the same age. And this sort of implies that behaviour is fixated at a young age, which it isn't. Yes it's heavily influenced but the theory seems to be taken generalizations and basing everything it stands on on those generalizations, much like what autogynephilia did for trans people.
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Are you actually retarded?
Like i dont like the guy because he adds religion into the mix but you must hve not listened to a word he has said if that is the image you have of him lmao

He goes on, in less then a minute, to advocate a patriarchal society in which men are dominant. And then goes on to say that Nuclear families (man and woman) are the most efficiant and that any other alternative cannot be as good as any nuclear family and uses flawed studies to back it up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/9pt489/i_took_my_girlfriend_to_jordan_peterson_and_she/
https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/9vs05k/my_son_is_a_hateful_incel_and_i_just_cannot_save/
From the last one "I’ve seen what toxic ideologies do to families. I’m not interested in joining your red pill, Jordan Peterson, or child beating cults."

 

[Ond]

That still doesn't justify the behaviour though, but I understand where you're coming from and I kinda reject them, the youth and elderly are becoming increasingly polarised in several fields such as sexuality and political leanings compared with previous generation of the same age. And this sort of implies that behaviour is fixated at a young age, which it isn't. Yes it's heavily influenced but the theory seems to be taken generalizations and basing everything it stands on on those generalizations, much like what autogynephilia did for trans people.

its theory for a reason, and has been criticized by many people through time but there must be something about it as it can be applied successfully to many cases through time

most of your behavior is put in place at a young age as your brain automatically adjusts to its environment for the sake of your own survival in both the world but also your social group. Morals, ideals and behavior is therefor very specific to you

we did a case on a toddler that went three weeks after birth without any meaningful contact between its parents (eye contact, extended periods of playtime/care/presence with the parents)
the parents were frequent abusers of weed and other drugs

the toddler grew up to trust people extremely easily (which was exploited by people with ill intent, forcing him to buy stuff for them like iphones because "muh friendship"), have anger issues due to neglect and anger being the only way to get attention, along with many other self-destructive behaviors such as substance abuse to the point that he couldn't afford rent

he became close to the exact same his parents were, which then proves the theory to be applicable

of course i don't doubt you could apply a different theory to the same scenario, but it's just an example of a study done with the theory

 

[Goatson]

And then goes on to say that Nuclear families (man and woman) are the most efficiant and that any other alternative cannot be as good as any nuclear family and uses flawed studies to back it up.

That doesn’t make him a homophobe and he never states that homosexual families can’t function. Quite the opposite, he says that they can function just as well but that it requires a lot more effort. A view which I personally and my boyfriend hold aswell.

But yeah he and we are just conservative christian homophobes innit?

Get outta here with that /gay/ shit

 

[Husky]

it as it can be applied successfully to many cases through time

Anecdotal evidence is not evidence.

most of your behavior is put in place at a young age as your brain automatically adjusts to its environment for the sake of your own survival in both the world but also your social group

we did a case on a toddler that went three weeks after birth without any meaningful contact between its parents (eye contact, extended periods of playtime/care/presence with the parents)
the parents were frequent abusers of weed and other drugs

the toddler grew up to trust people extremely easily (which was exploited by people with ill intent, forcing him to buy stuff for them like iphones because "muh friendship"), have anger issues due to neglect and anger being the only way to get attention, along with many other self-destructive behaviors such as substance abuse to the point that he couldn't afford rent

he became close to the exact same his parents were

Yeh people who are abused frequently usually end up like that, and I think you're just kind of brushing off the ulterior influences later in life (namely the exploitation) to justify the argument that he turned out the same as his parents, if someone from a regular family had gone through that same experiance in teenage to young adult life they may well end up exactly the same, read this

https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/9vs05k/my_son_is_a_hateful_incel_and_i_just_cannot_save/

Should give some good insight.
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can function just as well but that it requires a lot more effort.

And you don't think that actual homophobes wouldn't jump on this as justification for gay men or women not being able to raise families? I doub tthat there's sufficiant evidence to back up his claims and he didn't seem to give much sufficiant evidence.

 

[Goatson]

And you don't think that actual homophobes wouldn't jump on this as justification for gay men or women not being able to raise families? I doub tthat there's sufficiant evidence to back up his claims and he didn't seem to give much sufficiant evidence.

I couldn’t care less about homophobes, real ones can go fuck themselves. Besides it is definetly being used as an argument for gay parenting to convince people who are against it. Quite literally the Christian Democrats changed their policy to support it here using that exact argument and noone in the party, even the most conservative ones, batted an eye.

 

[Ond]

Anecdotal evidence is not evidence.

It would be pointless for me to find the cases we worked as they are in a different language and in a folder which I no longer have access to due to graduation

Even if you attempted translation it wouldn't work because our language doesn't translate well to English at all

Yeh people who are abused frequently usually end up like that, and I think you're just kind of brushing off the ulterior influences later in life (namely the exploitation) to justify the argument that he turned out the same as his parents, if someone from a regular family had gone through that same experiance in teenage to young adult life they may well end up exactly the same, read this

The exploitation of him was unique as his parents never experienced such a thing, it was instead a product of him not being taught to trust his own "tribe" and distrust foreigners to his own social group, however it was a result of their raising of him so i thought it would be dumb not to include it for the sake of showing that not all things can be attributed to the theory

Should give some good insight.
https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/9vs05k/my_son_is_a_hateful_incel_and_i_just_cannot_save/

Anecdotal evidence is not evidence.

@Satirical this might be a thread for you my guy, psychgang