Serious Went to a Jordan Peterson talk

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derailing current affairs threads is the aim

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this is a fast thread, :heyzeus:
is it...
an elaborate disguise, to be certain

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IQ actually has a pretty big relevance to some tasks (namely logic stuff)
Also, you can't communicate with someone who is farther than 2 standard deviations apart from you
 

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I need to comment on the fact that I find it amazing that a 'thinker' is able to fill auditoriums, based on exactly that, his ideas, something which has been missing for a while, unfortunately.

The reason I believe he is so popular comes from two things, although they're very much the same

- He says common sense things, things we have all held as obvious, but they have recently been under attack by the growing extremism, so it is refreshing for people who still identify with the center, who have been been left out of the loop because each side seems to be more insane than the other by the day
- He captivates due to his ability to maintain calm (most of the time) when he is in a debate, while being very articulate in the way he constructs his arguments, something that has been vanishing from the public discourse. On the right, you have the 'owned libtard cry venezuela xD' and on the left you just scream 'racist, sexist and transphobic' to shut down the other side

He is not as abrasive/crazy as Milo (I think Milo is hilarious, but I think he is, many times, wrong) or as politically coloured as Shapiro.


With news and information being digested so much, 3 minute, 5 minute, 7 minute segments where you can't fit anything, people have been left with a thirst for long form dialogue, and the technology is now here to allow it - Podcasts. 1 hour, 2 hours 3 hours... Joe Rogan's podcast is insanely popular, because you actually get guests who can develop their thoughts+throw jokes in there to make it easy
I think it is the same reason someone like Neil Tyson is well known, they both managed to make something 'boring' (astrophysics, psychology) into something interesting by being good narrators.

here he says why he thinks he is popular himself at 1 minute

entire segment is worth watching anyways



now, endangering myself of stepping ON THE TRAP

That's because... people in Africa, have, on average, lower IQ than people in Europe who in turn have an average lower IQ than people in Asia.
Although these statistics seem to be evident, the reasoning as to why that is does not seem to be race, but a multitude of factors.
You have to give context to his statement, because depending on the context, that statement might or might not make sense.

Then again, throw random sentence completely out of context to make someone look eViL is easier


if you need to find the statistics www.google.com

Ok
A. Just because a lot of people think something doesn't make it true. This is called the bandwagon fallacy.
B. Says common sense things? Like clean your room? Ok? It doesn't require a PhD to tell people to clean your room bucko. And just because something sounds like it's common sense doesn't make it right, there's actually a term for that, counter-intuitive. And Peterson is not correct on a lot of things.
C. We really going through this whole 'EBAL LEFDISTS SED BAD THINGS TO ME BUD I HAB FACKS AND LOGIK!"?
D. I don't care if Peterson says he's popular.
E. Joe rogan had not had any single leftist of any description on his show and has allowed people to say that black people are moving to Europe to ethnically cleanse the white race, a neo-Nazi conspiracy theory, he did this without rebuttals or interruption.
F. No what you're implying is that black people are dumb because they're black. There are a lot of people in even ye poorest parts of Africa who speak multiple languages, I saw a documentary a while back about a priest in Ghana living in slums without toilets and tin houses who can speak 8 Languages. And it's already been proven that IQ is not fixed (sources:

Humans are getting more intelligent over time, probably mostly due to better education. The increase has been fastest in developing countries, bringing them close to industrialized countries.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31556802
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-06/humanity-keeps-getting-smarter

"IQ scores: A) measure developed skills, not native intelligence. B) can change dramatically. C) don't say anything about a person's intellectual limits."
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2009/07/the-truth-about-iq/22260/

IQ changes during the person's life time and intellectual activity can increase it even rapidly
http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/109/2/425.full.pdf

https://theconversation.com/ignore-...l-of-intelligence-is-not-fixed-for-life-30673

http://www.businessinsider.com/actu...d-enough-2011-11?international=true&r=US&IR=T

If a child doesn't go to school, or schooling is delayed, such as in poor communities their IQ will be lower. Staying in school longer also increases IQ and dropping out can decrease it.
http://www.iqtestexperts.com/iq-education.php )

All that needs to be done is just education initiatives. In Bhurkino Fasu after the French puppet government was overthrown by communists the literacy rates went rom around 30% to 80% in just 4 years from education initiatives in one of the poorest countries in the world. Black people are not dumb, uneducated people such as yourself who espouse that lie are.

And as a matter of fact the highest educated group are nigerians who emigrated. About 1/4 of the People at mum old boarding school were Nigerian and one of them hadn't had any education what do ever prior to coming to the school, he worked his ass off and showed to be naturally gifted in mathematics and scored as one of the highest in the country. The same story was with most of the Nigerians I knew there.

(Phone posting btw)
 
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Still waiting for that proof that debunks Peterson’s theory regarding homosexual parenting there @Husky

Also by your logic aren’t you and all your famed leftist speakers and theorisits communist enablers? Dreaded enablers of extremist views? Hmm.
 

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iq is a big fucking joke and people who use it for so-called racial science need to stop thank you for coming to my ted talk
sat in a random discord i was invited to yesterday
they had a politics channel
literally the only two things they ever dicussed was ”racial science” and jews

Really makes you think
 
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E: Can someone please ban @Husky from here and clean the thread up I'd like to read about Jordan Peterson not communism :grinning:

@Husky your points are so fucking stupid, goes to show when the only place you can post them is on a roleplaying forum where people think you're joking because they're so far from reality that they sound like a bad satire meme. Just stop trying, move on with your life and try some place where you're actually wanted.
 
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E: Can someone please ban @Husky from here and clean the thread up I'd like to read about Jordan Peterson not communism :grinning:

@Husky your points are so fucking stupid, goes to show when the only place you can post them is on a roleplaying forum where people think you're joking because they're so far from reality that they sound like a bad satire meme. Just stop trying, move on with your life and try some place where you're actually wanted.
You have become my favourite admin.
 
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Ok
A. Just because a lot of people think something doesn't make it true. This is called the bandwagon fallacy.
B. Says common sense things? Like clean your room? Ok? It doesn't require a PhD to tell people to clean your room bucko. And just because something sounds like it's common sense doesn't make it right, there's actually a term for that, counter-intuitive. And Peterson is not correct on a lot of things.
C. We really going through this whole 'EBAL LEFDISTS SED BAD THINGS TO ME BUD I HAB FACKS AND LOGIK!"?
D. I don't care if Peterson says he's popular.
E. Joe rogan had not had any single leftist of any description on his show and has allowed people to say that black people are moving to Europe to ethnically cleanse the white race, a neo-Nazi conspiracy theory, he did this without rebuttals or interruption.
F. No what you're implying is that black people are dumb because they're black. There are a lot of people in even ye poorest parts of Africa who speak multiple languages, I saw a documentary a while back about a priest in Ghana living in slums without toilets and tin houses who can speak 8 Languages. And it's already been proven that IQ is not fixed (sources:

Humans are getting more intelligent over time, probably mostly due to better education. The increase has been fastest in developing countries, bringing them close to industrialized countries.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31556802
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-06/humanity-keeps-getting-smarter

"IQ scores: A) measure developed skills, not native intelligence. B) can change dramatically. C) don't say anything about a person's intellectual limits."
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2009/07/the-truth-about-iq/22260/

IQ changes during the person's life time and intellectual activity can increase it even rapidly
http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/109/2/425.full.pdf

https://theconversation.com/ignore-...l-of-intelligence-is-not-fixed-for-life-30673

http://www.businessinsider.com/actu...d-enough-2011-11?international=true&r=US&IR=T

If a child doesn't go to school, or schooling is delayed, such as in poor communities their IQ will be lower. Staying in school longer also increases IQ and dropping out can decrease it.
http://www.iqtestexperts.com/iq-education.php )

All that needs to be done is just education initiatives. In Bhurkino Fasu after the French puppet government was overthrown by communists the literacy rates went rom around 30% to 80% in just 4 years from education initiatives in one of the poorest countries in the world. Black people are not dumb, uneducated people such as yourself who espouse that lie are.

And as a matter of fact the highest educated group are nigerians who emigrated. About 1/4 of the People at mum old boarding school were Nigerian and one of them hadn't had any education what do ever prior to coming to the school, he worked his ass off and showed to be naturally gifted in mathematics and scored as one of the highest in the country. The same story was with most of the Nigerians I knew there.

(Phone posting btw)
anecdotal evidence
news articles instead of scientific literature
my mom's boarding school
you're a racist and a racist enabler despite saying it's not about race but a whole subset of other things
communism taught africa how to read


alright you got me
 

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anecdotal evidence
news articles instead of scientific literature
my mom's boarding school
you're a racist and a racist enabler despite saying it's not about race but a whole subset of other things
communism taught africa how to read


alright you got me
Admitting that africa in general has a lower iq than the rest of the world, no matter what youre blaming it on, is enablinh neonazis, didnt you know????