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Roby

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Let me ask you something : What the fuck are you on about, you silly fucking gypsy?



1)It's not "Exaggerated" it's the closest accurate number that thorough research has gotten us. This fact is literally a google away.

2)I assume you're implying that there were no gas chambers if it's not "feasible"? Except for Auschwitz having the best known one? Again, literally a google away. But on another point, do you believe shooting them down would've been more beneficial resource wise? "Oh yeah, let's waste all our weaponry resources on executions". The only time Germans used weapons for executions while there was a fully operating gas chamber near by was when they were trying to evacuate and escape during liberation attempts.



As you provided no source, I'll have to assume that the brutality involved killing a worker without fully exploiting him(Which, on it's own, doesn't fucking make it any less evil). While the wehrmacht was considered to be just random conscripts who had no intention of killing, it's doesn't make up in any way, shape or form, for what they had done.


Again, I was taken aback by the absurdity of how idiotic you are to think these were for anyone besides the german elite. What, did you think between being starved to death and exploited till the last breath - the prisoners had time and energy to play? Absolutely flabbergasted by how naive you are.




"eye is for an eye". Since when is invading a neutrel country "an eye for an eye"? Moreover "Lmao, let's invade their country, pilage, torch and execute their populations and then say : Well uh, it's cause they resisted". I mean really?



Yo, I hate the fact that the blacks are no longer slaves, but listen, I'm no racist cause I've got this friend Tyrone, he's black. So we cool.


You're not supporting it, you're apologizing for it's atrocities. That makes you even worse:Ignorant.


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a decent vision from europe without all them slavs and jews, just epic

almost 2,000,000 or more soviet citizens helped the german force during their war against bolshevism
 

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almost 2,000,000 or more soviet citizens helped the german force during their war against bolshevism
2 million useful idiots fought and died for the regime that wanted them dead
 

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don't forget the masterubation machines
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How did I praise germany? I dislike them because we lost much territory due to them and their pacts with the commies
but you just wrote a mininovela on how you praise hitler and the nazgang
 

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I fully understand the german side on the WW2 and always will. Before you give me all that morale about the holocauster and other shit, the casualty number of 6,000,000 god's chosen people is severely exaggerated, it doesn't take a genious to understand how killing so many people in such a short time, not by outright execution, but by 'gassing?' is not feasible. Why would the germans invest such important funds into gas chambers and shit if they wanted to simply kill the jews? The concentration camps were actually slave labour camps for the german war effort, same goes for the soviet union who used the gulags, except the fact that germans had particular rules set for the camps. I recall seeing evidence of a document where a german camp guard has been arrested for unnecessary brutality against the prisoniers, and that Auschwitz had a pool for swimming and a rabbit breeding program, not to mention a football team. A bit too much for a camp designed just to kill people, right?
Most of the casualties from the german camps happened due to the shortage of supplies, massive typhus contamination and spread following constant bombardment and so on.

First off, you don't need a lot of money for poison gas, its cheaper than bullets so I don't know what funds you are talking about unless you mean the construction of the gas chambers themselves which exist, you can go see them. As for the time it takes to kill people with gas, its relatively short. I've never heard of anything else you mentioned.

The legend of Wehrmacht torching down entire villages because they're evil is not true. They almost exclusively torched down settlements due to communist partisans in every country. In war, an eye is for an eye.

Doesn't make it not a war crime (and yes the soviets did that and worse, I am fully aware).

Before you call me an antisemite, you should know that I also fully support the Lehi, a jewish party which operated in the Middle East and fought the brits in order to gain a nation of their own as an Italian protectorate.

It's funny its the Lehi who you support as the Lehi were a sometimes Fascist sometimes Marxist organisation that was the most radical organisation of the three main Jewish partisan forces (and also the smallest), unlike the Haganah and somewhat the Etzel/Irgun they actively kidnapped and executed British officers and committed many many war crimes against both arabs and brits. Never heared of them trying to become an Italian protectorate but it doesn't make too much sense since they never tried to fight the other organisations that would oppose this plan.

If I have to choose between Nazi Germany and Allies/USSr, I'll choose Germany.

Can't blame you for not wanting to live in the USSR but choosing to leave in Nazi Germany over one of the democratic allied countries? That just sounds like you either don't understand Fascism, don't care about your civil rights or simply trying to elevate your edge factor.

Also, in a previous post you claim many communists were Jews, this claim is entirely true but the explanation is very simple, the Jews were treated as second class citizens in Tsarist Russia, their villages were often raided and the Tsar refused to step in so of-course they would join a group that is trying to promote equality, however, not all Jews did, in my family I have had people who have fought on both sides against each-other in the civil war.
 
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First off, you don't need a lot of money for poison gas, its cheaper than bullets so I don't know what funds you are talking about unless you mean the construction of the gas chambers themselves which exist, you can go see them. As for the time it takes to kill people with gas, its relatively short. I've never heard of anything else you mentioned.



Doesn't make it not a war crime (and yes the soviets did that and worse, I am fully aware).



It's funny its the Lehi who you support as the Lehi were a sometimes Fascist sometimes Marxist organisation that was the most radical organisation of the three main Jewish partisan forces (and also the smallest), unlike the Haganah and somewhat the Etzel/Irgun they actively kidnapped and executed British officers and committed many many war crimes against both arabs and brits. Never heared of them trying to become an Italiam protectorate but it doesn't make too much sense since they never tried to fight the other organisations that would oppose this plan.



Can't blame you for not wanting to live in the USSR but choosing to leave in Nazi Germany over one of the democratic allied countries? That just sounds like you either don't understand Fascism, don't care about your civil rights or simply trying to elevate your edge factor.

Also, in a previous post you claim many communists were Jews, this claim is entirely true but the explanation is very simple, the Jews were treated as second class citizens in Tsarist Russia, their villages were often raided and the Tsar refused to step in so of-course they would join a group that is trying to promote equality, however, not all Jews did, in my family I have had people who have fought on both sides against each-other in the civil war.

I'm very skeptical of the whole holocaust business but I welcome everybody's opinion, really.

Also, Nazi Germany wasn't fascist in it's whole sense, except the one-party system, else by that logic we could consider the USSR fascist too.
Fascism just means corporatism, as perfectly described by Mussolini.
National Socialism is a branch of socialism that focuses heavily on ethnic nationalism.

Fascism is not the same with socialism, but everybody nowdays consider Germany as fascist due to the slander term used by the commies since WW2.

It's not because I don't understand fascism or that I'm trying to be edgy, I am very much appealed by nationalism in it's sense, so naturally I am more inclined to Nazism, Fascism, you could even consider that I'd be inclined to like ( TO A SMALL DEGREE) National Communism.

Nationalist Authoritarianism vs Democracy resumes to two answers:
Would I like to live in a country in which the government exercises strong power, everybody know their places and they all work together in order to benefit the community? In turn, I have to sacrifice personal freedom from a political perspective, and most likely give up the hope to have certain things that might be considered luxury.

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Would I like to live in a country in which the government does not totally regulate the market, in which every man is free to elevate himself and earn personal wealth and has freedom, politically speaking? Of course, this means I am not obliged to give a single shit about the community in which I am in, as long as I reach my goal. Such a society might be strong in terms of economy and all, but I tend to believe it's morality is bad.

In truth, National Socialism was a third position government which borrowed elements from both specters of ideaology, socialism and capitalism. In Nazi Germany, community and country was above all, there were social programs for the poor and all that kind of things, but the individual wasn't confined to be 'equal' with the poorest or richest. Nazism sought to unite all classes under the banner of nationalism and the good of the country, even if they know the classes are not equal and shouldn't be, after all there should be a clear social hierarchy...but that doesn't mean an individual shouldn't have every right to earn wealth through sheer work and elevate himself to the top classes of society.

There isn't anything perfect on this planet, that includes politics. No government is perfect, and none is less evil. Everybody have their own interests. It just seems that my interests align with the far right, at least for now. When I was younger, I used to like cold-war era communism because of it's appeal to patriotism and all.
 
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what are you talking about germany during hitler was ran by him and his fellow aryan bourgeoisie friends in the private industry, having welfare and volkswagens didn't make germany into a socialist state or anything
 
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I'm very skeptical of the whole holocaust business but I welcome everybody's opinion, really.
BAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Of course you're skeptical, have you done any research beyond watching a History Channel episode? Obviously not, considering the points you made were immediately shot down by common sense and facts with no rebuttal coming from you whatsoever (Gas Vs bullets being the most laughable example).
The reason no one, except for loonies, denies the holocaust is due to the millions of documents, photographs and first hand experiences that we have to keep as a grim reminder to anyone who finds "the whole holocaust a skeptical business". You've provided no proof or valid sources to the excrements that you're spouting while I only need a google search or two to completely disprove your bullshit.

In turn, I have to sacrifice personal freedom from a political perspective, and most likely give up the hope to have certain things that might be considered luxury.
Do yourself a favour, go read George Orwell's 1984 to get the slightest clue of what life would actually be like.

To list what freedoms exactly you'd be missing:
  • Freedom of press
  • Freedom of speech
  • Freedom of protest against a tyrannical government
Living under a dictatorship would mean you'd give up much more than just a political standpoint. The lack of these basic freedoms would lead to complete control of the population, their interests, hobbies etc. You'd be left flat on your ass with no liberties whatsoever, in favour of the ruling party and their ideologies. Period

I won't address the in depth passion you have for Nazis, we've already established your fetishes.
 
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I urge you to search about the black athlethe Jesse Owens who participated in the 1936 Berlin Olympics and was more than welcomed in Nazi Germany.
Do you know anything about representation? Pretty sire this was the point, just like calling nazism national "socialism"
 
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