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The war in the middle east is pointless, our boys and girls have no reason to be over there fighting for something so pointless that only leads to meaningless loss of life at extraordinary rates, just let them fight their own wars. I also feel bad for the German soldiers who were forced into service and sent to die on the east/western fronts, many German soldiers were just men trying to fight for their country, and keep their borders safe. The Waffen SS and the Schutzstaffel were the Nazi's in Germany supporting Hitler in his extermination of the Jews.
 

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The war in the middle east is pointless, our boys and girls have no reason to be over there fighting for something so pointless that only leads to meaningless loss of life at extraordinary rates, just let them fight their own wars. I also feel bad for the German soldiers who were forced into service and sent to die on the east/western fronts, many German soldiers were just men trying to fight for their country, and keep their borders safe. The Waffen SS and the Schutzstaffel were the Nazi's in Germany supporting Hitler in his extermination of the Jews.
The SS and Schutzstaffel still were doing things for their country as well. Who says they weren't conscripted either? Conscription was done in most, if not all countries - it's what war does.

In the middle east, the US are mainly there to support their allies (such as the Free Syrian Army) and fight the Islamic State.
 

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The war in the middle east is pointless, our boys and girls have no reason to be over there fighting for something so pointless that only leads to meaningless loss of life at extraordinary rates, just let them fight their own wars. I also feel bad for the German soldiers who were forced into service and sent to die on the east/western fronts, many German soldiers were just men trying to fight for their country, and keep their borders safe. The Waffen SS and the Schutzstaffel were the Nazi's in Germany supporting Hitler in his extermination of the Jews.
The SS and Schutzstaffel still were doing things for their country as well. Who says they weren't conscripted either? Conscription was done in most, if not all countries - it's what war does.

In the middle east, the US are mainly there to support their allies (such as the Free Syrian Army) and fight the Islamic State.
please keep current world politics out of the history thread thank you very much

this is the one good thread on this fucking site i dont want you lot bringing shit in here

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"After this dekulakization in 1931 and 1932 a great number of peasants were left without any means of livelihood and thousands were homeless. The newly organized kolkhozes lacked efficient management, and their workers showed little motivation to do their job. The kolkhozes’ efficiency was extremely low, and the harvest of 1932 proved to be a complete failure. As a result, a severe famine hit the agricultural regions of Ukraine from 1932 to 1933. 4 Special armed units were assigned to surround the famine-affected territory and the starving peasants, now forbidden to leave their native villages, were actually doomed to die. The exact number of those who died as a result of starvation is unknown, as no accurate records exist. However, the Institute of Demography of the Academy of Sciences of Ukraine estimates that in 1932 and 1933 Ukraine lost approximately 3.9 million people as a result of starvation." (Oksana Kis, 2013)
 
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Constituting a series of civil wars, the Congo Crisis was also a proxy conflict in the Cold War, in which the Soviet Union and the United States supported opposing factions. Around 100,000 people are believed to have been killed during the crisis.

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Who says they weren't conscripted either?

Forced conscription in the SS started 1942, fairly late in the war.

Everyone in the SS before that were recruits, meaning they had a choice. The forced conscription also took place in south-east Europe, mostly, meaning that most, if not all of the German SS members were people who chose to join the SS instead of having been conscripted. The SS purely consisted of soldiers in better physical condition to lay it out simply. SS officers schools, however, also had racial studies and the likes.

All in all, negating the madness near the end of the war in 1945, pretty much every German in the SS had chosen to be there at some point. The wehrmacht, however, is a whole other story.
 

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Forced conscription in the SS started 1942, fairly late in the war.

Everyone in the SS before that were recruits, meaning they had a choice. The forced conscription also took place in south-east Europe, mostly, meaning that most, if not all of the German SS members were people who chose to join the SS instead of having been conscripted. The SS purely consisted of soldiers in better physical condition to lay it out simply. SS officers schools, however, also had racial studies and the likes.

All in all, negating the madness near the end of the war in 1945, pretty much every German in the SS had chosen to be there at some point. The wehrmacht, however, is a whole other story.
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I always find it funny that the SS has this aura of being elite shocktroopers that destroyed the enemy but in reality like 90% of SS units performed far worse than the wehrmact did because they were all fucking retards who unironically thought just being Aryan would mean they would win so they just used suicidal tactics that even the Soviets thought were pretty damn stupid
 

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I always find it funny that the SS has this aura of being elite shocktroopers that destroyed the enemy but in reality like 90% of SS units performed far worse than the wehrmact did because they were all fucking retards who unironically thought just being Aryan would mean they would win so they just used suicidal tactics that even the Soviets thought were pretty fucking stupid
when they think raw ideology to the party beats training and experience

the fucking state of the axis
 
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when they think raw ideology to the party beats training and experience

the fucking state of the axis

honestly it's pretty funny in general how pop history has defined the nazis to be technologically superior, tactically brilliant, and well trained ubersoldiers when in reality they years behind the allies in nearly every department, made wholly retarded descions on the daily and mostly ran on meth
 

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broke :heyzeus: be like

ss were conscripts

woke :heyzeus: be like

nkvd were conscripts
 

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honestly it's pretty funny in general how pop history has defined the nazis to be technologically superior, tactically brilliant, and well trained ubersoldiers when in reality they years behind the allies in nearly every department, made wholly retarded descions on the daily and mostly ran on meth
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was it kino?
 

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honestly it's pretty funny in general how pop history has defined the nazis to be technologically superior, tactically brilliant, and well trained ubersoldiers when in reality they years behind the allies in nearly every department, made wholly retarded descions on the daily and mostly ran on meth
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