Serious On Communism.

Status
Not open for further replies.

Gimmie

QNZBGCVQXDQZOWP
Joined
Apr 26, 2016
Messages
569
Nebulae
1,496
Did you purposely read only half of what I wrote while also disregarding the given context?

We were talking about mass unemployment.

would mean just that - Huge Unemployment Problems. Did you ever consider what would happen to countries like China where blue-collar jobs are in the millions if automation was introduced? That 8% unemployment rate would sky-rocket back to their soviet times. Or what about India? Let me tell you that there are still millions upon millions of people who will be affected.



2/3 of these are already being automated, transportation being the most notable one. Seen the film "Logan"? They have these self-driving lorri trucks that haul materials around the country. Fun fact:This was their tackle at realistically portraying the future. What is more, "Transportation" is an overall bad example, as it's an easy-to-automate job on its own. For Christ's sake, we have self-driving google cars, and self-driving busses are next.
As for administration, or customer service - both of them will end up automated. There is so much a person may want to ask regarding his product. Run a survey, put up a frequently asked questions and answers robot-there's your customer service.

And guess what, there's not enough room to fit those unemployed folk into only 3 categories. Or rather, 1?

(I feel this is a great topic to discuss, thus I invite anyone who wants to chime in to make a new thread so as not the get caught up in socialism)

So was I, wasn't I?

Besides I thought I'd mention transportation because theres still a big amount of eastern european filth, most notable latvian and polish people coming over to western europe to drive around trucks. I've not yet seen self driving trucks on a big scale so i think youre talking out of your ass on that one but youre simply just proving my point that eastern europe will be going through some tough times in the future if you guys dont get out of the stone age very soon.
 
Reactions: List
Joined
Jun 3, 2017
Messages
249
Nebulae
163
So was I, wasn't I?

Besides I thought I'd mention transportation because theres still a big amount of eastern european filth, most notable latvian and polish people coming over to western europe to drive around trucks. I've not yet seen self driving trucks on a big scale so i think youre talking out of your ass on that one but youre simply just proving my point that eastern europe will be going through some tough times in the future if you guys dont get out of the stone age very soon.

"Still" That's the problem. You can't see beyond your own reach.

Rome wasn't built in a day, nor will automation be. However, as I proved with my examples of Google Cars, and automated buses(Btw, already being experimented on in Finland) transportation will be removed as a job position. It's a fact at this point, considering how scared shittles are the employees of Uber, seeing the rise of automated vehicles
(https://www.wired.com/story/uber-crisis-self-driving-pittsburgh/)
(http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-uber-self-driving-cars-20160818-snap-story.html)
(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3747059/Uber-use-autonomous-cars-haul-people-weeks.html)

While for now automated cars will have overseers, as technology progresses, they too will be removed. Tell me again how I'm pulling this out of my ass? Perhaps do your research before spouting nonsense.

"if you guys dont get out of the stone age very soon."

You do realize that in the long run, it affects everyone, right? Even doctors will be at risk in the future. Don't take it as a "Next week every1 is gonna be replaced", but instead as "This is reality, as technology progresses, it is slowly replacing people of every kind. No one is safe. Thus we must find new solutions, like the proposed universal salary".

Oh, and also as a personal "Fuck you" regarding the "Stone Age" comment.

Also this:
At least upper secondary educational attainment, age group 25-64 by sex(2016)
Netherlands: 77.1%
Lithuania: 94.6%

You might have a bigger populace, but you can fuck off straight away with that caveman bullshit
 
Last edited:
Reactions: List

Deleted member 374

jesus christ denton
Joined
Apr 26, 2016
Messages
11,399
Nebulae
23,204
Even in a perfect Communist Utopia, would we not subconsciously value the role-player to be of lesser worth than the factory worker?
We'll construct a brutal gulag-esque establishment meant for the detainment and slow starvation of roleplayers.

ok but to break this character, in the future, there's going to have to be a departure from currency. maybe a post-scarcity rbe or something idk.
 
Reactions: List

Deleted member 61

donator without a cause
Joined
Apr 26, 2016
Messages
11,008
Nebulae
11,250
I mean, of course Nazism is better than Communism, which is why I felt that I rather gamble Axis + US vs. USSR, than U.S. UK + USSR vs. Axis, but at the same time, I mean, you can't really forgive the whole killing off other races/ethnicities. That's highly against any religious principle, and against any sense of moral decency. I just feel like we should have snubbed out Communism first. U.S. should have just taken in all the Jews.
 
Reactions: List
Joined
Dec 13, 2016
Messages
3
Nebulae
2
I'm a proud communist. And I really fucking hate it when people throw shit on an ideology for the bad things made by that ideology's followers. Why? Because a person doesn't represent an ideology. A perfect example would be one of the greatest leaders alive, Josip Broz Tito. He was a communist and like every other communists, he hated capitalism and its followers, but Tito was the only man who had 145 world leaders on his funeral. This was never seen in the worlds history. (Now the south slavs are looking for him but he is gone, the whole humanity except braindead retards are missing Marshal Tito). I respect your opinions as long as its not too retarded. Thats all I want to say.
 

Jimbo

Molecule
Joined
Apr 26, 2016
Messages
5,762
Nebulae
20,198
I'm a proud communist. And I really fucking hate it when people throw shit on an ideology for the bad things made by that ideology's followers. Why? Because a person doesn't represent an ideology. A perfect example would be one of the greatest leaders alive, Josip Broz Tito. He was a communist and like every other communists, he hated capitalism and its followers, but Tito was the only man who had 145 world leaders on his funeral. This was never seen in the worlds history. (Now the south slavs are looking for him but he is gone, the whole humanity except braindead retards are missing Marshal Tito). I respect your opinions as long as its not too retarded. Thats all I want to say.
I'm a proud communist. And I really fucking hate it when people throw shit on an ideology for the bad things made by that ideology's followers. Why? Because a person doesn't represent an ideology. A perfect example would be one of the greatest leaders alive, Josip Broz Tito. He was a communist and like every other communists, he hated capitalism and its followers, but Tito was the only man who had 145 world leaders on his funeral. This was never seen in the worlds history. (Now the south slavs are looking for him but he is gone, the whole humanity except braindead retards are missing Marshal Tito). I respect your opinions as long as its not too retarded. Thats all I want to say.
 

Eli

Proton
Joined
Apr 26, 2016
Messages
180
Nebulae
366
I'm a proud communist. And I really fucking hate it when people throw shit on an ideology for the bad things made by that ideology's followers. Why? Because a person doesn't represent an ideology. A perfect example would be one of the greatest leaders alive, Josip Broz Tito. He was a communist and like every other communists, he hated capitalism and its followers, but Tito was the only man who had 145 world leaders on his funeral. This was never seen in the worlds history. (Now the south slavs are looking for him but he is gone, the whole humanity except braindead retards are missing Marshal Tito). I respect your opinions as long as its not too retarded. Thats all I want to say.

Well as far as I know (And I haven't looked into Tito that much) Tito was a good leader for the most part but saying he was fully communist is a bit of an overstatement, he allowed private enterprise and the country ran very differently from Marx's ideas. Again, correct me if I'm wrong cause I only go off of what I've heard.
 

Gimmie

QNZBGCVQXDQZOWP
Joined
Apr 26, 2016
Messages
569
Nebulae
1,496
Also this:
At least upper secondary educational attainment, age group 25-64 by sex(2016)
Netherlands: 77.1%
Lithuania: 94.6%

You might have a bigger populace, but you can fuck off straight away with that caveman bullshit
'

lmao 2 factors weigh in here. difficulty of an education and the real need for a high pay in a country that already has fairly high pay grades. Thats why Polish people dont become bankers here, they become truckers. Because they'll never become bankers due to the education in their country.

Heres some of the different rankings, First off the Netherlands at #15
https://gyazo.com/ce7526997ea9f6bb16e3c8a28c786e14

And Lithuania at #28 of the 50 total countries in Europe. So fuck you right back, slavshit.
https://gyazo.com/9e847aec1890f07de32b3499b91c2891

Here you can see some other interesting data to compare:
http://www.socialprogressindex.com/?tab=2&code=LTU
http://www.socialprogressindex.com/?tab=2&code=NLD
[doublepost=1500750178][/doublepost]
I'm a proud communist. And I really fucking hate it when people throw shit on an ideology for the bad things made by that ideology's followers.

dont the 'ideologys followers' represent what the ideology does on a social basis????
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jun 3, 2017
Messages
249
Nebulae
163
'
I don't know geography

So let me get this straight,you:
  • Failed to support your own view on automation
  • Failed to refute all but 1 of my arguments, which is irrelevant to the topic anyway.
  • Accused me of talking out of my ass, while doing no research whatsoever.
  • Bloody brilliant
I'm going to assume you tried to make a comparison between our two countries? How cute. It's rather tough of you to try and wave your "15th place" university-dick around, with your "relevant stats" while not knowing the difference between Latvia and Lithuania, you complete utter moron.

Perhaps come over to Lithuania so we could teach you proper geography, huh?

As for your stats, let me remind you one tid bit of information:
Your country didn't suffer the catastrophic collapse of the economy back in the 1991 when the soviet union fell back. Lithuania, along with the rest of the baltic states, were left completely demolished as almost all sources of production were lost.
However, over the period of two decades, we rose from the ashes, much like the phoenix bird. And with that said, we proudly take our deserved place on the PISA test, the statistic that actually matters.

Regarding the rest of the stats on environment and what not, read above and then blow them out your ass.
 
Last edited:
Reactions: List

Gimmie

QNZBGCVQXDQZOWP
Joined
Apr 26, 2016
Messages
569
Nebulae
1,496
So let me get this straight,you:
  • Failed to support your own view on automation
  • Failed to refute all but 1 of my arguments, which is irrelevant to the topic anyway.
  • Accused me of talking out of my ass, while doing no research whatsoever.
  • Bloody brilliant
I'm going to assume you tried to make a comparison between our two countries? How cute. It's rather tough of you to try and wave your "15th place" university-dick around, with your "relevant stats" while not knowing the difference between Latvia and Lithuania, you complete utter moron.

Perhaps come over to Lithuania so we could teach you proper geography, huh?

As for your stats, let me remind you one tid bit of information:
Your country didn't suffer the catastrophic collapse of the economy back in the 1991 when the soviet union fell back. Lithuania, along with the rest of the baltic states, were left completely demolished as almost all sources of production were lost.
However, over the period of two decades, we rose from the ashes, much like the phoenix bird. And with that said, we proudly take our deserved place on the PISA test, the statistic that actually matters.

Regarding the rest of the stats on environment and what not, read above and then blow them out your ass.

i edited this to the correct country 42 minutes ago youre a bit late. and no thanks, i dont want to get stabbed and receive a venereal disease by one of your friends. I think its very funny that you come back to the fact that i make a small human mistake due to the names of your countries.

ok heres my points

My view on automation? ok, coming from a business-family i think its great. Studying to become a programmer, sure, why not.

dunno

I did do my research and pulled numbers from very legitimate sources which I guess you failed to recognize and you like to come back to the mistake I made whilst ignoring the fact that the numbers dont lie. Funny. Arguing with me about things while all of the facts tell you otherwise.

thanks
 
Joined
Jun 3, 2017
Messages
249
Nebulae
163
i edited this to the correct country 42 minutes ago youre a bit late. and no thanks, i dont want to get stabbed and receive a venereal disease by one of your friends. I think its very funny that you come back to the fact that i make a small human mistake due to the names of your countries.

ok heres my points

My view on automation? ok, coming from a business-family i think its great. Studying to become a programmer, sure, why not.

dunno

I did do my research and pulled numbers from very legitimate sources which I guess you failed to recognize and you like to come back to the mistake I made whilst ignoring the fact that the numbers dont lie. Funny. Arguing with me about things while all of the facts tell you otherwise.

thanks

What a sudden change of tone, I admire the way you know your place.

If you come down to trash talk my country and call me a Slavshit, then be so kind as to AT LEAST check google maps before proceeding. Because seeing you embarrass yourself on such a simple google search mistake is actually "Very funny" to me.

By the way, I acknowledged your "pulled up numbers" in the second half of my post, disregarding them as bullshit considering the circumstances and the context of my country's current position. I won't deal with your own issue of not being able to comprehend written text when it's right there.
Here, let me do you a favour
As for your stats, let me remind you one tid bit of information:
Your country didn't suffer the catastrophic collapse of the economy back in the 1991 when the soviet union fell back. Lithuania, along with the rest of the baltic states, were left completely demolished as almost all sources of production were lost.
However, over the period of two decades, we rose from the ashes, much like the phoenix bird. And with that said, we proudly take our deserved place on the PISA test, the statistic that actually matters.

Regarding the rest of the stats on environment and what not, read above and then blow them out your ass.

You're welcome.
 
Reactions: List

Edgelord Freeman

Electron
Joined
Apr 27, 2016
Messages
613
Nebulae
311
Not really. to find rundown buildings over here you need to do a lot more research and looking because we dont have fucking gypsytowns lmao. Besides we don't have as many rundown buildings because our economy has been a lot better since we never adopted communism. And above that, the rundown buildings over here look beautiful because of the old architecture. You'll never find concrete giants here.

And thats not just because we like to piss on slavs because we enjoy doing it, we like to piss on slavs because their countries look like human toilets anyway.
Lol at least we know how to enjoy things most people take for a standard, despite its the fault of the current politicians and previous politicians who take all the money for themselves and the people who break down the buildings, you know even they used to look good but either they were destroyed by people or degraded as time passed which is normal.
[doublepost=1500754634][/doublepost]
Do you not realize the entire point of automation? The whole point is to eliminate a big PART of the jobs, not all jobs. Over here in the Mentos factory where every single piece of mentos is made almost the entire process is automated. There is only 1 man that cant be replaced by a machine and thats the guy handchecking every few moments if all of the mentos fit in 1 packet and takes out misshapen ones etc. The reset of the jobs would all be in customerservice, administration and transportation. and let me tell you, there are a lot less people on the workfloor now than there would have ever been.
No the point is for capitalists to pay alot at once to never pay for workers again.
 

Gimmie

QNZBGCVQXDQZOWP
Joined
Apr 26, 2016
Messages
569
Nebulae
1,496
What a sudden change of tone, I admire the way you know your place.

If you come down to trash talk my country and call me a Slavshit, then be so kind as to AT LEAST check google maps before proceeding. Because seeing you embarrass yourself on such a simple google search mistake is actually "Very funny" to me.

By the way, I acknowledged your "pulled up numbers" in the second half of my post, disregarding them as bullshit considering the circumstances and the context of my country's current position. I won't deal with your own issue of not being able to comprehend written text when it's right there.
Here, let me do you a favour

You're welcome.

yes in the hour that you took to reply my tone can change quite a bit from bashing slavshits like yourself to chilling and having to bash you down again.

ive hung out with slavs before from these countries and they know I've made this mistake before, many times. They are also from Lithuania. Unfortunately I dont think any of these slavs are in the community anymore, they were here long before you were. In the spoiler you show a country that has entered the European Union in the last 20 years and has apparently benefitted quite a lot from the combined wealth from the Euro. maybe a situation you could compare to the leech greece. Not to mention the statistics still show the Netherlands as a country ranked a lot higher on all 3 points, but I wont acknowledge that because it isnt in your favor, like you said, sorry bud.
[doublepost=1500754788][/doublepost]
Lol at least we know how to enjoy things most people take for a standard, despite its the fault of the current politicians and previous politicians who take all the money for themselves and the people who break down the buildings, you know even they used to look good but either they were destroyed by people or degraded as time passed which is normal.
[doublepost=1500754634][/doublepost]
No the point is for capitalists to pay alot at once to never pay for workers again.

they never looked good. And yes, good point. Next time ill go to the kitchen and leave the tap running for a second less thinking about those miles you have to walk to your local well where you have to wait in line you filthy degenerate. And I think those politicians reflect some of your country as well. Nice and corrupt, willing to do anything to make a few bucks.
 
Reactions: List

Edgelord Freeman

Electron
Joined
Apr 27, 2016
Messages
613
Nebulae
311
'

lmao 2 factors weigh in here. difficulty of an education and the real need for a high pay in a country that already has fairly high pay grades. Thats why Polish people dont become bankers here, they become truckers. Because they'll never become bankers due to the education in their country.

Heres some of the different rankings, First off the Netherlands at #15
https://gyazo.com/ce7526997ea9f6bb16e3c8a28c786e14

And Lithuania at #28 of the 50 total countries in Europe. So fuck you right back, slavshit.
https://gyazo.com/9e847aec1890f07de32b3499b91c2891

Here you can see some other interesting data to compare:
http://www.socialprogressindex.com/?tab=2&code=LTU
http://www.socialprogressindex.com/?tab=2&code=NLD
[doublepost=1500750178][/doublepost]

dont the 'ideologys followers' represent what the ideology does on a social basis????
I respect other people as long as they dont act LIKE YOU, aka dont respect me AND MY PEOPLE. Really I have gone through some shit but I didnt think that in my list of most cancerous people I have ever known there would end up some random guy from the internet.
EDIT: long story short, its easy to spot a nazi
 
Joined
Jun 3, 2017
Messages
249
Nebulae
163
yes in the hour that you took to reply my tone can change
Oh, my bad darling, perhaps I should stoop down to your level and reply without thought? Would be twice as quick!

ive hung out with slavs before from these countries and they know I've made this mistake before, many times.
Is that your superior education showing up again? Now, I don't blame Americans, for example, for not knowing of Lithuania. But dear boy, you're not over the atlantic ocean.
You want to trash talk? Get your shit straight first, then talk.

maybe a situation you could compare to the leech greece.
Small detail : We're continually paying out our debt while also contributing economically without abusing the benefits we receive from EU by spending all our cash on pensions putting them as high as salaries for coders.
This just goes on to show you've got completely zero clue of what you're talking about. Just stop.

Not to mention the statistics still show the Netherlands as a country ranked a lot higher on all 3 points, but I wont acknowledge that because it isnt in your favor, like you said, sorry bud.
I don't deny that, as I said, I don't shy away from the fact that we're worse than some other developed countries. I'm actually proud we're so high up on that list considering everything that I had said. Moreover, I'm proud for our sister Estonia, who is above in all 3 categories than you despite also suffering the same as us.
 
Reactions: List

Gimmie

QNZBGCVQXDQZOWP
Joined
Apr 26, 2016
Messages
569
Nebulae
1,496
its easy to spot a nazi

i just hate muslims and only a few americans made it to my good book. And I hate people who try to make an argument out of something that already has a definitive answer, you.

i really dont care about jews. they're not prominent in my society due to what the nazis did in ww2. Mind you i believe 80% of the jewish population was killed in my country and we still made it on the number 2 on the yad vashem list. Very sad, only 20 jews left in my city, no joke. Its a legitimate statistic

calling someone a nazi is a very easy triggerpull because they dont like commies, huh?
[doublepost=1500755940][/doublepost]
Oh, my bad darling, perhaps I should stoop down to your level and reply without thought? Would be twice as quick!


Is that your superior education showing up again? Now, I don't blame Americans, for example, for not knowing of Lithuania. But dear boy, you're not over the atlantic ocean.
You want to trash talk? Get your shit straight first, then talk.


Small detail : We're continually paying out our debt while also contributing economically without abusing the benefits we receive from EU by spending all our cash on pensions as high as salaries for coders.
This just goes on to show you've got completely zero clue of what you're talking about. Just stop.


I don't deny that, as I said, I don't shy away from the fact that we're worse than some other developed countries. I'm actually proud we're so high up on that list considering everything that I had said. Moreover, I'm proud for our sister Estonia, who is above in all 3 categories than you despite also suffering the same as us.

if it takes you an hour to reply to this thread then you should just stop and wast e so much time on an internet argument

im sorry i dont know the part of Europe that doesnt matter. Please, if you would only know a province in my country without looking it up first id be soooo surprised. If you think that my geography really represents the quality of my countries education then whos the real retard lol.

didnt know this my friend. I was making a guess, thats why I said maybe.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.