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Aleks said:
Why is it America's job to protect Europe? Are we required to join every war started by other nations?
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No one asked you to join, nor do you need to be involved in every war

You just joined because you wanted to flex and maybe set up spheres of influence so you can get more oil or something
 
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STUCK IN A CAKE said:
No one asked you to join, nor do you need to be involved in every war

You just join because you want to flex and maybe set up spheres of influence so you can get more oil or something
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If you think Britain didn't ask the United States to join the war you're out of your mind. The Senate was split at the time due to the past war.
 
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My point was more "boiling it down to a british/france fuckup" ignores the deeper political issues and tense state of the alliances at the time. France was in next to no state to fight off Germany and it knew it and the UK had its own issues too. Russia was Russia.
 
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STUCK IN A CAKE said:
You just joined because you wanted to flex and maybe set up spheres of influence so you can get more oil or something
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Or because Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and kinda made America understand they gotta take a side
 
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I'm not saying the United States war machine is perfect, far from it as on display in Vietnam. But when it came to WW2 we were essential to the survival of the Allied powers and provided necessary rearmament for Britain to push back Germany.
 
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The issue with any treaty provision is what will you do if the side does violate it? Ideally, you would instantly spring to war but will your allies and your own people support it?

Hitler was able to spin the 100000 man army and the limits on equipment into a straitjacket that wouldn't even let them defend themselves against their smallest neighbours. The Rhineland occupation was touted as a hostile takeover of a good chunk of their land. Many other countries, and parts of the population of England and France recognised enough validity in this that the leadership felt it wasn't worth going to war over.
 
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RabidMaggot93 said:
The issue with any treaty provision is what will you do if the side does violate it. Ideally, you would instantly spring to war. However, will your allies and your own people support this?

Hitler was able to spin the 100000 man army and the limits on equipment into a straitjacket that wouldn't even let them defend themselves against their smallest neighbours. The Rhineland occupation was touted as a hostile takeover of a good chunk of their land. Many other countries, and parts of the population of England and France recognised enough validity in this that the leadership felt it wasn't worth going to war over.
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Hitler's propaganda was on another level. He had people thinking he was doing them a favor by conquering their lands.
 
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